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#412905 - 12/11/15 02:30 PM S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos?
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Are there any S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob video Demos?
I would love to see these features in action step by step...?
at 6:05 here in the first demo it's briefly shown,....
but I'm looking for more in depth demo...

thanx





Edited by Dnj (12/11/15 02:54 PM)

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#412908 - 12/11/15 03:06 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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I may be off base here but...about the only ones I know interested in arpegiator music are teens today.

I came out of retirement to teach 15 - 18 year olds...listen to their music all the time...its rap...poorly done stuff...lyric and music wise. I would have given up writing music years ago if I was as bad as most rappers I hear.

So what are arrangers doing, trying to re-create this junk?



Edited by guitpic1 (12/11/15 03:07 PM)
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#412914 - 12/11/15 03:44 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: guitpic1]
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#412919 - 12/11/15 04:18 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Question do the arpeggiators & live controls work on any style or just dance styles?



Edited by Dnj (12/11/15 04:21 PM)

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#412926 - 12/11/15 07:07 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Question do the arpeggiators & live controls work on any style or just dance styles?



Hi Donny
They work on any style.
As demonstrated above.
Michel explains that you can use the live control knobs to mute style parts.
For example: He uses the big band style in variation "D".
You got the horns and everything.
Now you want to play a trumpet Solo...
Usually you would take the band back by going to variation "C" or "B".
But that would slow the band and drive down...
With the Live control knobs you can stay in variation "D" for example to keep the drive and slowly mute the style parts to your liking for the trumpet solo.
The second part is just showing filters and retrigger on dance styles.
He makes a joke that you have to look a certain way and hold your head when playing dance style music.
Hope this helps wink
Eric
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#412927 - 12/11/15 07:11 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Eric, B]
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BTW, something I did not know until I tried it: when playing with the arpeggio you can choose any sound.
That gives you unlimited possibilities....
Eric
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#412930 - 12/11/15 07:40 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Eric, B]
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Originally Posted By: Eric, B
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Question do the arpeggiators & live controls work on any style or just dance styles?



Hi Donny
They work on any style.
As demonstrated above.
Michel explains that you can use the live control knobs to mute style parts.
For example: He uses the big band style in variation "D".
You got the horns and everything.
Now you want to play a trumpet Solo...
Usually you would take the band back by going to variation "C" or "B".
But that would slow the band and drive down...
With the Live control knobs you can stay in variation "D" for example to keep the drive and slowly mute the style parts to your liking for the trumpet solo.
The second part is just showing filters and retrigger on dance styles.
He makes a joke that you have to look a certain way and hold your head when playing dance style music.
Hope this helps wink
Eric


Eric thanx for the translation....there are so many combinations you can achieve with the live controls/arpeggios for sure...
when I get time I want to explore them much further and hopefully incorporate some into my songs also very kool stuff... ciao



Edited by Dnj (12/11/15 07:48 PM)

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#412933 - 12/11/15 07:46 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Hi Donny,
I keep playing with them from time to time and see what each does.
It will take some time to remember and master each, but I think there is certainly some potential there.... wink
Eric
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#412981 - 12/12/15 12:00 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Edited by Dnj (12/12/15 12:08 PM)

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#413185 - 12/17/15 06:55 AM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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headphone


Edited by Dnj (12/17/15 07:03 AM)

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#413200 - 12/17/15 12:39 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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http://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,32313.msg241461/topicseen.html#msg241461




Good thread on Psr Tutorial


Edited by Dnj (12/17/15 12:48 PM)

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#413677 - 12/26/15 03:28 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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#413715 - 12/28/15 05:15 AM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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When doing solo gigs, I use one live control knob to control balance between solo voice and harmony. The other knob controls the balance between style and voice. These live control knobs are very useful.
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#418820 - 03/28/16 01:50 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: guitpic1]
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Hi Donny,
Here is a nice write up from Joe H on the PSR Forum in case you missed it wink



Hi Paul,

Now that I have had my S970 setup for awhile (since December) and have learned a bit from experimenting with the Arpeggiator and LIVE CONTROL, I can say with confidence that the arps and patterns you posted using your Chronos can be reproduced on the S970... but NOT nearly as easy... simply because it is an arranger keyboard and not a "performance" keyboard. By this I mean Yamaha does not given us all the Panel controls or access to certain MIDI parameters typically found on performance keyboards like the Chronos, Motif, and Montage. As I stated above, we have to do things differently. The arpeggios (and thousands of MIDI Loops available for download and purchase) can be used in style Parts and Multi Pads. And thankfully, we now have a live arpeggiator for the R1/R2 Voices

I am re-posting here from another recent thread, what I have learned with some added comments:

LIVE CONTROL and Arpeggiator Features

LIVE CONTROL:
1. Several parameters can make a big difference in how the arpeggios play. Among the most useful are: Filter-Cutoff, Gate Time, Unit Multiply, and Arp Note Velocity.
2. Some Voices will require modification using VOICE SET (create a User Voice). Adjustments of Attack, Release, and Filter will allow many Voices to play well with an arpeggio that will not work with the Preset Voice default settings. (I have created variations of the same Voice to play differently with different arps)
3. LIVE CONTROL settings, IE; knob assignments and data values cannot be saved in registrations. Yamaha Japan says this is not possible
4. LIVE CONTOL (saved) 1-8 knob assignments can be changed real-time if you have the LIVE CONTROL screen open
5. One of the knob assignments (R1/R2 Balance) will allow you to Morph between R1 and R2 (use the same Voice with different arps)

The arpeggiator:
1. A lot of variation in playback can be accomplished by the number of keys held down and by changing your fingering as the arpeggio plays.
2. Adjusting Gate Time (note length) to Tempo will allow arps to work with different genre of musical styles. EI; shorter Gate Time at faster Tempos and longer Gate Times at slower Tempos.
3. "Play the arp" by lifting up and pressing again on the keys at certain intervals in time with Tempo can create significant variations of the arp playback
4. Real-time adjustments of Filter Cut-Off Frequency, Gate Time (note length), and Note Velocity can create many interesting variations of arp playback (depending on the particular Voice)
5. R1 or R2... or both are selectable to play the arps. R1 can be set to play the arp while R2 plays a sustained note of the same or different Voice (string or synth pad Voice).
6. The arp Volume can be set to match the Voice level without the arp playing (important), so when you turn the Arp On and Off the Voice level remains the same.
7. The Arp Type can be saved in registrations
8. Arp Types can be changed on-the-fly real-time with the Arp Type screen open. This tehnique allows for greater variety when play the arp in a lead line. The Arp Menu will remember the last arp selected in each arp catagory, so that a single press of the button will allow real-time changes in the arp type. This can also be better accomplished saving the Arp Type in a registration.
9. It is easy to alternate between the LIVE CONTROL screen and Arp screen while playing. Start with the Arp screen open, then press the Assign Button to open the LIVE CONTROL screen. To go back to the Arp screen, press the EXIT button. To enter the LIVE CONTROL screen again press the Assign Button.

wink

Joe H
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#418821 - 03/28/16 03:16 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Thanks Eric good read..

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#418822 - 03/28/16 03:30 PM Re: S970 Arpeggio & Live Control Knob Video Demos? [Re: Dnj]
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Almost sounds to me like a mini super knob
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