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#412390 - 12/02/15 08:39 AM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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#412392 - 12/02/15 08:45 AM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: mirza]
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I read few months back that a girl in Dubai drowned at the sea.
Father wouldn't let lifeguards go and rescue her because they would touch her body by rescuing her and that would dishonor the family name.
How deep you have to into believing in your stupid god to be more important than you own kids..l
Where does a reason and logic stops in religions? ?
Was it ever present?
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#412397 - 12/02/15 08:59 AM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: mirza]
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I've heard of Jehova's Witnesses refusing medical help (blood transfusions) for their children. Some died, others were saved by doctors (against the parent's will), who were sued by the parents. Guess life isn't that precious after all.
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#412424 - 12/02/15 04:46 PM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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Guns Kill More Americans Than Terrorists Do




PRESIDENT OBAMA, IN a heartfelt response to a mass shooting at a community college in Oregon on October 1, 2015, called on journalists to compare the number of Americans killed by gun violence and the number of Americans killed by terrorism.

The results? Its not even close. In a recent 10-year period, guns killed more than 112 times as many American citizens as terrorists did.

But we thought wed take a deeper look. Of course guns kill more people than terrorists. A lot of things kill more people than terrorists, and heart disease is far and away the biggest killer. But the governments priorities on funding preventative measures dont always correspond with the countrys biggest threats.

Lets look at guns first. Firearms killed more than 346,681 people between 2003 and 2013, the last year for which numbers were available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In the same period, terrorist attacks killed 312 US citizens, according to data from the US State Department and the Council on Foreign Affairs.

Thats an average of 28 people a year. Compare that to the average of 31,516 gun deaths each year. In 2013, guns killed nearly twice as many people in the United States as terrorists did worldwide. And of those gun deaths, manymore than half in 2013were suicides, not homicides.

Now, terrorists use guns. And thats where the data get complicated, because there isnt always a clean division between gun violence and terrorism. According to the State Department, terrorism is premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents. But the CDC classifies all gun deaths together in one category. Theres no separate gun deaths from terrorism column in their annual data report, and if there were, it wouldnt rank among other common causes of death.

But even with all those caveats in mind, the President made his point, and the data support it.

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#412425 - 12/02/15 04:54 PM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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Earlier this year, the Institute for Economics and Peace released its GPI Global Peace Index.

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#412479 - 12/03/15 04:27 PM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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This short film highlights 4 kinds of people who react differently to the 'truth' imposed by the system:

1. Those that accept the imposed version of the 'truth' without even questioning it. [the sheep]

2. Those that do not accept the imposed 'truth' and speak the real truth loud, clear and determined, no matter the consequences. [the hero/martyr]

3. Those that accept the imposed 'truth' out of fear of what happened to those that spoke the real truth, and that it might happen to them if they spoke it. even if they know an recognize the real truth. [the coward]

4. Those that apparently accept the imposed 'truth', but they know and implement the real truth onto themselves and hope for a day that they will be able to make others see and accept the real truth.. [the survivor]


Edited by Taike (12/03/15 04:53 PM)
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#412489 - 12/04/15 01:50 AM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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#412528 - 12/04/15 04:50 PM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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CJ Werleman wrote a piece for Alternet about how atheists should learn a lesson from Pope Francis when it comes to dealing with poverty and since it slams atheists, Salon was eager to reprint it:

When the Pope washes the feet of convicts while calling for greater efforts to lift up the worlds poor, he makes it possible to establish meaningful partnerships with other moral communities, secular and religious. Of course, when Francis speaks about the idolatry of money and growing income inequality, you know, the things Jesus spoke about, you can set your watch in waiting for someone on the Right to accuse him of being a Marxist. Hello, Rush Limbaugh.
Atheists like to talk about building a better world, one that is absent of religiosity in the public square, but where is the atheist movement, as defined by the some 2,000 atheist groups and organizations in the U.S., when it comes to dealing with our third-world levels of poverty? Not only is the atheist movement absent on this issue, it is spending thousands of dollars on billboards that make atheists look like assholes, at the same time Catholicism is looking hip again. The Pope has changed the perception of the Church in the minds of millions while the atheist movement has been sucked into the Rights fictitious war on christmas.
Ill give him that Pope Francis walks the walk on poverty, saying no to the Papal palace and making outreach to the poor and criticism of capitalism run amok an important part of his legacy.

But whats with trashing atheist groups for not dealing with the same issues?
Why accuse atheists of spending money on billboards instead of the poor when most of those billboards were funded by the organizations, their donors, or billboard-specific groups to further their stated missions? Why not just accuse anyone who spends money on anything thats not charity of the same thing? (By the way, the Catholic Church spent more money to fight marriage equality than most of those atheist billboard campaigns combined. Just sayin.)

And while the Pope has done a lot of good shining a spotlight on poverty, what exactly have other Catholics done to advance the cause? Maybe if they werent giving out so much money to victims of sexual abuse, they could be giving millions of dollars to the neediest among us instead.

Still, Ill play Werlemans game. Why dont atheists do more for the poor? Well, to get the excuses out of the way, we dont have the infrastructure, numbers, or outreach ability of the Catholic Church, nor do we have some sort of doctrine that demands we pay attention to one particular social issue over another.
But we havent ignored the poor altogether, as Werleman wants people to believe.
On the microlending site Kiva, the atheist team has loaned out over $13,000,000 to the poor more than any other group in the world.

Members of Foundation Beyond Belief, which Im on the board of, have donated more than $1,400,000 to causes that have nothing to do with promoting atheism, many of which benefit the poor. Weve ever sponsored the Pathfinders Project, a yearlong international service trip to help those less fortunate.

Atheist groups have collected tens of thousands of dollars to support relief efforts in countries devastated by natural disasters, most recently raising more than $100,000 for people affected by Typhoon Haiyan.

Atheists have offered to volunteer at soup kitchens, too, though the Christians running those places wanted nothing to do with us.

Most importantly, individual atheists give to the poor on their own, even if its not as easily quantifiable as it is with churches.

Werleman mentions none of those things, though. Hes too busy complaining about random billboards to notice when atheists do precisely the sort of outreach he wants us to be doing.

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Christian Org. Declines Atheists Help in Feeding the Poor for Thanksgiving
A Missouri Christian organization has turned down a local atheist groups offer to help distribute Thanksgiving meals to the poor because the faith group says the two wouldnt be a good fit.

Volunteers with the Kansas City Atheist Coalition have worked with the Kansas City Rescue Mission over the holidays for two years, but this year the Christian group has decided to include religious materials with each of the 500 meals that will be delivered, The Kansas City Star reported.

The Kansas City Atheist Coalition stated on its website: Kansas City Rescue Mission has decided to use the meals they deliver as a chance to proselytize to its recipients by inserting religious literature into the meals. They informed us that we would not be a good fit (emphasis theirs) for volunteering with them, and declined to respond to any further inquiries.

Julie Larocco, a development officer for the Kansas City Rescue Mission, told the Star the group is unapologetically Christian and that their work has always been faith-based in nature.
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#412541 - 12/05/15 02:48 AM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: mirza]
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#412587 - 12/05/15 03:05 PM Re: VERY POWERFULL!!!!!!!! [Re: Taike]
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