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#415017 - 01/21/16 01:50 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
I just discovered something that could be shocking: There is just one mode left, "Performance mode". According to the FAQ, it seems that the old Motif voices (which had up to 8 elements) are now turned into performances. This would dramatically reduce the functionality of the performance with respect to the number of different sounds. - I'm trying to figure out more about it. confused


No, the 8 layers are still there, you just cant access them in a sepperate voice mode, but should be able to eddit the layers of all 8 voices in the performance mode...

Big advantage this way, is that changes to the voices are part of the performance..

Also the sequencer is very basic, just replay, no more edditing
No more pattern mode
No more Daw controll
No more PC edditor/vst
Only 1,75 GB of user memmory, not further expandable,... ( some people have 4GB in their Motif XF)

In many ways, its indeed a step back...
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#415018 - 01/21/16 01:54 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
Mikem Offline
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Here's a good demo by Blake Angelos for Sweetwater:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4jpJFMvqQ
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#415019 - 01/21/16 01:58 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
spalding1968 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
The Montage is definitely not a workstation like the Motif.
Quote from the FAQ (in bad English...):

"MONTAGE has Sampling function?
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No. But MONTAGE can load wav file.

MONTAGE has Fully-functional Sequencer?
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No. MONTAGE just has the simple sequencer "Performance Recorder". It does not have edit function."



And that's the final nail in the coffin . ......even the tyros probably has a better sequencer and I could not live with that despite the superior sounds . Like I said before , the motif XF are going to hold their value for a lot longer now . Anyone selling their Xs or XF would be in my view quite foolish given what we now know despite what wishful thinking we may have had .


Edited by spalding1968 (01/21/16 01:59 PM)

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#415021 - 01/21/16 02:13 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
Dnj Offline
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You can see the way Yamaha is leaning..with "live control" in both the S970/Montage and for sure the next TOTL arranger be it a Tyros 6 or whatever they will call it..sit tight its coming soon.

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#415027 - 01/21/16 04:38 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
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Looks like the Montage is designed to try and get Yamaha back into the synth market where they dominated with the CS & DX range of synths, with the replacement for the Motif nowhere to be seen. (No indications of when this will happen either)

From the looks of it, the perceived idea that the Montage was a replacement for the Motif was just that, perceived, and not a reality. (Yamaha certainly had everyone fooled this time although I suppose they could add workstation features with an app)

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#415028 - 01/21/16 04:45 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
rosetree
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I think so, too, it's not a successor. But they label it "flagship synth". Theoretically possible that the Motif name will be maintained in parallel...

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#415029 - 01/21/16 04:54 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
Mikem Offline
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Here's another demo from Blake Angelos, this time for Kraft Music. He doesn't talk in this one, he only plays. Orchestral sounds start at 7:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ronEbk462Yg


Edited by Mikem (01/21/16 04:54 PM)
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#415030 - 01/21/16 05:03 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
Mikem Offline
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Registered: 08/12/14
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Here's one from Guitar Center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHMATih1wY



And don't forget this demo, with Orchestral starting at 2:49:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9wzev494_k
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#415032 - 01/21/16 05:57 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
rosetree
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Sounds very good, as far as I could hear the demos (will have more time tomorrow). However difficult to judge without complete orchestral arrangements, spiccato, marcato etc...

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#415034 - 01/21/16 06:14 PM Re: YAMAHA MONTAGE Presented in Magazine! [Re: ]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
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Loc: Netherlands
Wow looks and sound great. What a machine.

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