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#417086 - 02/20/16 06:25 PM Ketron SD7 vs DX7
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#417088 - 02/20/16 06:40 PM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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kbs don't have to be new to sound great...just sayin..

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#417094 - 02/21/16 02:49 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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the SD7 doesnt support FM synthesis, does it? so those great sounds of the SD7 are sample based?
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#417106 - 02/21/16 06:26 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
the SD7 doesnt support FM synthesis, does it? so those great sounds of the SD7 are sample based?


I have no idea about FM synthesis you can probably ask AJ maybe he knows?.....all I do know is when I close my eyes it sounds great!
I think many people are all hung up on the New when the OlD can still do just as good.. headphone


Edited by Dnj (02/21/16 06:27 AM)

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#417112 - 02/21/16 07:10 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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This is a sample based sound on SD7... Its not from FM Synthesis (with Operators like FM), because the SD7 is a typical Rom Player instrument.
However its very good sound, from a very good sampling of Ketron..
Bravo Ketron!!
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#417113 - 02/21/16 07:15 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Sokratis 1974]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmp9yqhsjqg

sounds pretty darn awful to my ears smirk smirk smirk

thank God for the new top arranger keyboards!!!!



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#417116 - 02/21/16 07:25 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: john smies]
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Originally Posted By: john smies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmp9yqhsjqg

sounds pretty darn awful to my ears smirk smirk smirk

thank God for the new top arranger keyboards!!!!
regards,
John


John as you well know there are good and bad demos all over the web recorded in so many ways good & bad etc,..... but the Yamaha DX7 after 32+ years is and will remain one of the Classic KB's of all time & Arguably the mother of all digital synthesizers! ..





Edited by Dnj (02/21/16 07:31 AM)

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#417146 - 02/21/16 11:50 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: john smies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmp9yqhsjqg

sounds pretty darn awful to my ears smirk smirk smirk

thank God for the new top arranger keyboards!!!!
regards,
John


John as you well know there are good and bad demos all over the web recorded in so many ways good & bad etc,..... but the Yamaha DX7 after 32+ years is and will remain one of the Classic KB's of all time & Arguably the mother of all digital synthesizers! ..





I guess thats why they bring back FM synthesis on the Montage... However, that is a quite advanced version of the orriginal DX version..

In my Kronos there is a MOD7 engine, which can also use the orriginal DX7 patches...tough it can also do a lot more..
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#417156 - 02/21/16 02:11 PM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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Montage fm is indeed updated although FM hasn't fundamentally changed, it will still be best at percussive stuff like ep's and not so good at strings.

The dx7 was groundbreaking because it was a new synthesis system, really good value, and sounded pretty good on the things it was good at! Also it pushed the other manufacturers to raise their game.

Yamaha funded research into development of a synthesis technique that could be implemented totally digitally because then they could mass produce the stuff cheap. What the got was fm. The first mass exposure to FM sound was ELP Fanfare for the common man, although that monster played by Keith Emerson was built and sold by the Yamaha ordan division and is built mostly using discrete chips rather than the LSI chips used in the dx range.
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#417165 - 02/21/16 09:50 PM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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Also we have and Software VST FM Synthesis like FM8 Native Instruments that we can to import original SySex data from DX7 Hardware...
I have it.... Its very very good!!!
Please look at the video.. DX7 vs FM8 with Original Data Sounds


Edited by Sokratis 1974 (02/21/16 09:50 PM)
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#417169 - 02/22/16 12:43 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Bachus]
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Olders Ketron use FM technologie for FM sounds , MS série for exemple. I dont knows actualy on Audya or SD7 if it was same thing

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#417170 - 02/22/16 01:32 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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Advanced FM that came with the SY series keyboards and now 8 operator FM on the Montage present some pretty impressive FM sounds way beyond the DX-7. But I still haven't played a ROM based keyboard that has the velocity controlled expression of even the DX-7 let alone more advanced FM releases. I am not saying FM synthesis can replace ROMplers but the combination of both is ideal. That is why the Montage is a very attractive keyboard.


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#417171 - 02/22/16 01:41 AM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Magali]
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Originally Posted By: Magali
Olders Ketron use FM technologie for FM sounds , MS série for exemple. I dont knows actualy on Audya or SD7 if it was same thing

Yes.. You are right... On my old SD1, I remember that...
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#417205 - 02/22/16 12:39 PM Re: Ketron SD7 vs DX7 [Re: Dnj]
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