In the unlikely event that one day I walk through the 'Pearly Gates', I sure hope THIS is what's on the other side . Even if this is not your thing, you've got to feel what these guys (and all good musicians) feel when the groove is tight and everybody's coming out smokin'. Some of you will know what I'm talking about. Make sure you catch the entire organ solo.


chas

Luv the funk.....and those with the gifts to play it. Of course, the bass and drums sets the tone but what a nice groove to solo from. I also love the 'vibe' in these types of rooms; makes you want to play.

chas

Very kooool!

Love it chas. Talk about smokin organ This is my thing !!!! I always know a link you post will be good listening.

My heaven is a little different, with more beer and delicious food... But this music is certainly heavenly...

B3 clones like the Crumar have grown, and finally seem to catch the soul of the orriginall.. But then, its allways the player... I think he could even make the Organs of the Motif sound good...

Nice jam, .......wonder if a good player could pull that off using a Tyros 5 or Pa4x arranger solo..

They will be hardpressed, both dont have a real watterfall keybed...

And the Tyros5 organsound still lacks a little compared to the highend Crumar engine...

But a classplayer should be able to come close...





Big advantage of T5 or pa4x, you dont need the rest of the band....

If you believe that, then you missed the point of the post. A good bit of the 'magic' comes from the interaction between the musicians. (The experience of) Watching the 'love affair' between the bass player or the drummer and their instruments just can't be duplicated on ANY arranger. That's not to say that you can't have an enjoyable arranger performance; but you're talking 'apples and oranges' here. Live music is so much more 'organic' in that you're watching a shared social, musical, spiritual, experience rather than one guy playing 5-25% of a performance. The difference is that no matter how sophisticated the arranger, the bass player or drummer on the arranger track is NOT LISTENING TO YOU, so as a consequence, you're always playing to IT. Also, since the arranger doesn't take solos, you don't get the opportunity to practice creative 'comping'.

Sure, arrangers certainly have a place in the music scene but I don't think we should always be trying to compare them to live music. Like I said, apples and oranges.

chas

Nothing compares to live talented musicians. Chas, sorry nothing but harps in heaven, although I understand that IPods an IPads are allowed.

Groves, are the heart of music. Disco music is one big grove. Latin music has the most groves of all. My forms of Latin music place a repeated IIm7 – V7 progression in the middle of a song to allow the musician to get into a grove. I say this with tongue-in-cheek, if you try playing a grove on a keyboard it never happens. A grove needs emotion which includes constant changes in a musician’s playing. This is one of the reasons we sometimes become bored with our keyboards; we want them to make us feel and can’t.

When disco first came out my sax player was right on; he didn’t know what he was doing and only later did we begin to understand what the word grove meant. When a musician gets into a repetitive grove he has a chance to let out what’s inside of him. When a musician with little talent gets into a grove you hear a beat and a lot of notes with no meaning; it does not go anywhere. There were times when the band got into a grove and reached a high that left an excitement; it was our way of getting HIGH.

Boy do I miss those times, John C.

PS, Today my best grove is getting out of bed and going to the keyboard and playing five foot two with a few extra notes thrown in. aaaaaaaaaaaaah!

I hear you, John .

chas

Yes, YES, a thousand times YES !!!!!

I play an arranger kb out of NEED more than desire ... I ENJOY it, but it's NOT the band ...

... and now I'm off to a OMB gig with a MOST appreciative audience ...

So true. More than a few of us have been there, done that. Loved every minute.

we cant live in the past its was a different time no sense sulking over it...yes I enjoyed playing with a band for many many years, ...but I have moved on with happy memories as a solo act and enjoying it too. You have to face reality and make what your doing now musically the best it can be ....nothing lasts forever.

That is SO missing the point of everything that's been said. Nobody's sulking, just appreciating.

chas

Sure the good times were great, but on three occasions over 30 some years I've been involved in really great bands. We rehearsed, we learned songs, we got really tight, we had really talented players and singers (I was the LEAST talented in all of them). Then just as it got really good, somebody got drafted, somebody started messing with somebody's wife, somebody drank too much, somebody's wife raised hell...anyway, there are downsides to bands. It seems like we were constantly looking for a replacement or fill-in. I gradually just started doing it all myself!
It's like old girlfriends, we remember the great sex and tend to forget the bitchin'!

SO MUCH FUN! Not very complicated. These are players that lean more towards blues grooves. The bass player is playing a P bass, not a jazz bass (Fender). The guitar player is on a Telecaster...sometimes used by jazz players but a keystone instrument in Blues, rock and country.

The "organ" player is a monster, but notice, he, like a lot of younger "simulator" players, does not use the Leslie simulation mechanism to add the depth you get when you tastefully use alternating speeds at the right time.

There are a few groups like this in this area, and, when asked,
I always jump at the chance to play, and NEVER ask what the job pays, which, often is little.

If you haven't been there, you won't understand. If you have been there, you miss it.

GOOD STUFF, CHAS!


R.

Exactly.

Ditto Don............Keep Moving forward,... never backwards..
most bandmates are dead, drugged up, married or divorced, moved away, lost interest, who needs the drama anymore...

That said this is more my "Heaven"

Soooo, it's better to play with yourself than playing with a girl???

I love playing with girls, but my wife doesn't understand...

Hehehhe. That is a good one. I did mean it as a joke anyway.