I have had trouble trying to access PSR Tutorial today (Sunday) Has
anyone else had problems accessing PRS Tutorial ? Lloyd

No problem on this end, Lloyd.

Gary

Lloyd, sorry to say you have been banned from PSR Tutorial because you own another brand of arranger!
Oh wait, it's not April 1st any longer. Never mind.

Actually its a great forum and perfect place for general arranger resources to...

There are not many good forums in arranger land, there is synthzone, Psr tutorial and Korg forums, but thats about it... We used to have keyboardforum.nl, but that was closed down about a year ago..

Yes, I visit PSR Tutorial daily, even though I don't play a Yamaha at present. Extremely cordial atmosphere. You won't get constructive criticism of your music there though--only everyone telling you how great it is!

The PSR Turtorial was one of the first sites that I found after purchasing my PSR-2000 keyboard. Joe Waters, the site's owner and founder, did a fantastic job of setting it up, and continues to maintain the site with the highest of standards.

I was one of the first moderators on that site, and I'm still there, after all these years. Joe and I talk on the telephone several times a year, and he frequently asks my advice on matters concerning the site.

The site members are by and large, very, very helpful to each other, though as DonM stated, no one will criticize your musical skills or singing ability - they'll tell you how great you sound, even when you sound horrible. The site is very diverse, and covers each and every model of Yamaha arranger keyboard that has ever been made. And, when someone needs a custom style file, all they have to do is ask, and usually, within a day, several people will post the style you need, including the correct intro and ending for the specific song. Yes, it's that good.

When individuals have technical problems, either hardware or software related, there is always someone there that can usually solve your problems at no charge or hassle. I for one, have sent a smart media card all over the world for folks to update their operating systems of the PSR-3000, and it has always been sent back to me. That card sure has a lot of mileage on it.

For anyone that owns a Yamaha arranger keyboard, the PSR Tutorial site is the place to spend some quality time. You can probably learn more about your arranger on that forum than you can from the user manuals. In fact, I sincerely believe that Yamaha should reference the PSR Tutorial site in their manuals and send Joe Waters a check every year for keeping everything up to date and making the learning curve for Yamaha Keyboards a fun thing for everyone.

Cheers,

Gary

Thanks for all the educational answers. I am able to access
PSR Tutorial once again as the problems has vanished.
I was recently "forced" to join Frontier Communications
as Verizon Fios sold Frontier the whole ball o wax.
I believe my problem was with Frontier as every time I went'
to sign on, my password would be erased.
Not happy about the change as Frontier has had problems in
the past and so far many customers have had shutdowns and
other problems. Oh well, that's progress. Lloyd

I was also banned. I made constructive critiques to a few regulars in the Song's Forum and some admin saw it as harrassment. I got clipped.

Alan Russell

To my knowledge, no one has ever been banned from the PSR=tutorial site, or this site, for providing constructive criticism. Sorry, Alan, but there must have been something else. The moderators are very well qualified, both technically and musically, and I have never seen an instance where they have been unfair to any member. You really have to screw up big time to get banned.

Gary

A bit like Synthzone I guess And here you have to do that more than once before I get pissed.

Gary,

I was only trying graciously to help others to grow musically but the Song's forum led by Rodger B. always tried to refute my suggestions to those members by telling them what their doing is good enough. I do believe he was the one who clipped me. There is no profanity or non constructive critiques in any of my posts to those members. This action on me was a poor decision.

There is allways drama involved....


Personally constructive crticisme is a good thing, this is what makes you better....


And to be honest, there is no such thing as good enough, there is good, better, best... Good enough sounds like medicoreness... Maybe even my music could quallify as nearly good enough...


Luckilly, i can see enough room to improve, thats why i dont post anything thats near to perfect.... And my playing is still very far from that...

Alan, I don't know what went wrong - I don't get to that part of the forum very often. I'll have to check out your most recent posts, which will take some time.

Gary

Gary, please review all of them. Let me know if they purged them if you get a chance.

Alan, they are still there, every one of them. While everyone acknowledges your musical and technical skills, I think some of your comments were anything but constructive criticism, and in fact, some seemed hurtful toward the OP. I don't expect anyone to be politically correct when it comes to posting comments on another's musical submissions, however, there needs to be a degree of discretion when making any comments, positive or negative. I can readily see Roger's point of view, particularly in the post you made pertaining to a song Torben and his female vocalist. Torben, who is an extremely talented musician, has been on the PSR Tutorial forum for many years, he has contributed a lot outstanding creations to that segment of the forum and has offered technical assistance to many over those years. In that particular post, you had nothing constructive to say, no real advice that would improve the submission, just some nasty comments a few missing passing chords, and his vocalist talent that were uncalled for. Though I didn't take time to read all your posts, there apparently were several similar incidents that caused Roger to take the action he took.

Good luck,

Gary

As a learner, I agree. The PSR Tutorial Forum is really helpful ..... I feel sad that I am drawn to Korg keyboard. I fancied the PSR S970 on paper and YouTube but was so disappointed with the keybed when I drove up to Saigon to try it. So mushy and no "feel" ..... no anything from the key bed but what great sounds and styles. And what a great forum they have. It would be perfect for a learner like me.

Kind reds,
Johnmak

Johnmak,

Not everyone wants a firm keybed, and the keybed is not what dictates whether or not the keyboard is professional or not. It's what comes out of the keyboard that determines the overall quality.

Now, some folks, primarily those who were piano players, and sometimes, accordion player, in the past. They often utilize the key pressure to develop some sort of expression to their playing, which is good thing. Others, such as myself, could care less about weighted or semi-weighted keys because we are sitting down at the keyboard 5 to 7 days a week, often several hours a day, and playing to live audiences, which in itself is very demanding on both our minds and bodies. After just an hour of performing with a weighted keybed, my hands begin to cramp. A couple nights behind fully weighted keys and I have to soak my hands in hot, salted water to kill the pain. For me, those lightweight keys were the best thing since sliced bread.

Now, as you stated, the sounds provided by the S-970, and the S-950 are incredible, and the styles are absolutely outstanding, which is the two main reasons to purchase any arranger keyboard. While there are hundreds of other onboard features available in most keyboard, the vast majority of them are rarely used by players, both home and pro, which never ceased to amaze me.

Good luck on whatever you decide upon,

Gary

6 years have gone by...The Genos is what I use for all of our productions along with Cubase 12 Pro. Why can't people forgive?

Alan, I had nothing to do with your banning. I don't usually get to make those decisions without consulting all the other moderators, and it is really rare that I even think about banning someone.

You may want to talk with Roger.

Good luck,

Gary

Why not start over, and try joining with a different profile?