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#419537 - 04/10/16 04:34 AM AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya?
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I'm sure you know. Please inform us so that we no longer have to guess.

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#419540 - 04/10/16 06:08 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Does that really matter, i think it is what it is....

In general Ketron does not pull old models and keeps them in their line ups very long time, so i would be highly surprised if Ketron would call this a new audya.. That would hurt their own sales of their current audya stock
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#419541 - 04/10/16 06:15 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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I asked yesterday 2 Ketron people at the Musikmesse exactly this question, if the SD9PRO is the Audya sucessor.
Got no clear answer to my question, only that the Audya will be still on sale. smile

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#419548 - 04/10/16 07:54 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
Does that really matter...


Ask the current SD7 owners that same question. It certainly does for everyone who owns an Audya!!! We are not looking for a downgrade, but a serious upgrade.

If EVERYTHING in my current Audya can be copied over & used as is, I'll consider it as an upgrade despite the outward differences. Else, I'll patiently wait for the actual newer version of the Audya which should show up rather soon after this.
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#419550 - 04/10/16 08:09 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Maybe I am missing the importance, but I see the SD9Pro has new features and updates. On the other hand, Audya still has superior features also. Anyone with neither has another choice, and anyone with an Audya has to decide what is important to them.

Personally, I have an AJAMsonic Audya76, and, as long as it is performing well, will probably keep what I have, as I would lose my shirt for questionable advantages and known disadvantages.


Edited by Bernie9 (04/10/16 08:16 AM)
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#419551 - 04/10/16 08:24 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Everybody has become cautious about developing high-priced instruments. The SD9 will already be around 3,000€ or more. So I guess at this stage Ketron will observe sales figures first before deciding whether to develop an even more expensive Audya or not.

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#419552 - 04/10/16 08:28 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Maybe Ketron is now playing the same strategy as Yamaha does with it's Tyros & PSR series which works for them as both are extremely popular...
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#419555 - 04/10/16 08:42 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Henni
Maybe Ketron is now playing the same strategy as Yamaha does with it's Tyros & PSR series which works for them as both are extremely popular...


Actually, at least until Tyros 4, the Tyros also had the "PSR xxx" label and was the top model of that line, just with the additional name 'Tyros'.

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#419560 - 04/10/16 09:23 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Henni
I'm sure you know. Please inform us so that we no longer have to guess.

Thank you,
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Henni I dont think that the SD9 is the new Audya but it is definitely an upgrade the Audya is great but if we compare to korg pa4 or the new SD9 the audya is left behind them by far... I realy think that Ketron will release a new Audya maybe next year but for me the SD9 is definitely an upgrade and relatively cheap
but after all I don't think i will buy the SD9 now i will wait because I don't trust Ketron they promise a lot but in the end you get unfinished product the Audya from 2009 and stil unfinished...
take my advice dont be reckless be patient


Edited by Speed (04/10/16 09:24 AM)
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#419562 - 04/10/16 09:31 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Speed]
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but for me the SD9 is definitely an upgrade and relatively cheap
but after all I don't think i will buy the SD9 now i will wait because I don't trust Ketron they promise a lot but in the end you get unfinished product the Audya from 2009 and stil unfinished...
take my advice dont be reckless be patient


Good advice after what happened with the SD7 unfinishedness I would also wait till these new models are out for at least 6 months or more to see what turns up when they are in the hands of players testing them out for sure first. Buyer beware.

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#419564 - 04/10/16 09:38 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
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but for me the SD9 is definitely an upgrade and relatively cheap
but after all I don't think i will buy the SD9 now i will wait because I don't trust Ketron they promise a lot but in the end you get unfinished product the Audya from 2009 and stil unfinished...
take my advice dont be reckless be patient


Good advice after what happened with the SD7 unfinishedness I would also wait till these new models are out for at least 6 months or more to see what turns up when they are in the hands of players testing them out for sure first. Buyer beware.


You miss their whole strategy...

Ketron released the SD7 which allowed them to perfect the system, and now they start building from there... Its just impossible for small companies like Ketron to release failfree products, they dont have the huge resources needed for inhouse testing...
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#419565 - 04/10/16 09:46 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Any one person who played the original SD7 for an hour would find countless bugs, failures, missing features, etc.
I should have immediately returned mine, but I was determined to help AJ make it work. I failed. I'm hoping he finally succeeded. If they tested it in-house before releasing it then they sure need a new tester.
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#419567 - 04/10/16 09:48 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
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but for me the SD9 is definitely an upgrade and relatively cheap
but after all I don't think i will buy the SD9 now i will wait because I don't trust Ketron they promise a lot but in the end you get unfinished product the Audya from 2009 and stil unfinished...
take my advice dont be reckless be patient


Good advice after what happened with the SD7 unfinishedness I would also wait till these new models are out for at least 6 months or more to see what turns up when they are in the hands of players testing them out for sure first. Buyer beware.


You miss their whole strategy...

Ketron released the SD7 which allowed them to perfect the system, and now they start building from there... Its just impossible for small companies like Ketron to release failfree products, they dont have the huge resources needed for inhouse testing...

Maybe you're right but stil it is better to wait the SD7 is very different... I dont want to be a beta tester...


Edited by Speed (04/10/16 09:50 AM)
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#419570 - 04/10/16 11:02 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Any one person who played the original SD7 for an hour would find countless bugs, failures, missing features, etc.
I should have immediately returned mine, but I was determined to help AJ make it work. I failed. I'm hoping he finally succeeded. If they tested it in-house before releasing it then they sure need a new tester.


I opened a thread about satisfaction with the SD7, why didn't you answer there? The only answer I got was from Deanne, who is extremely happy with his SD7.

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#419571 - 04/10/16 11:07 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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#419572 - 04/10/16 11:16 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Any one person who played the original SD7 for an hour would find countless bugs, failures, missing features, etc.
I should have immediately returned mine, but I was determined to help AJ make it work. I failed. I'm hoping he finally succeeded. If they tested it in-house before releasing it then they sure need a new tester.


TRUE THAT DON! lots of money to be testing it pre finished...especially when it has to go on stage the minute it arrives no time for failure or workarounds
I did enjoy the sound, styles, and playing it
and not so easy to sell afterwards. I hope they get it right in the future models they release without the mystery.


Edited by Dnj (04/10/16 11:28 AM)

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#419574 - 04/10/16 11:19 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: ]
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I'm sorry if I don't get to every thread on here. I have a very busy schedule but try to help when I can.
I don't want to overdo my criticism of the SD7. As I said I'm sure they have it much more stable by now. My point is they are released too soon.
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#419593 - 04/10/16 06:14 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Rosetree,
I STILL stand by my post in the other thread. Frankly I don't understand all the trash talk about the SD7. Exactly what features do most gig performers really need? I have been using my SD7 for nearly a year now on gigs and have yet to have a problem at a gig with it. I use an arranger as an arranger - playing styles with a split keyboard and melody with right hand. I am not sure what else owners need from an arranger keyboard. Style conversions were as simple as can be and once you learn how to use the USB ports it is pretty easy to arrange gig play lists and play them from the thumb drives.

Now, I do have one thing I wish Ketron would fix. It should be easier to delete auditioned styles using the keyboard OS and not a computer connection. That said, I am pretty happy with my SD7.

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#419606 - 04/10/16 10:42 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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#419607 - 04/11/16 12:02 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya?


Even if the sd9pro is more capable then the audya, Ketron will never call it a replacement as the audya will still be on their sales lists till the last one in their inventory is sold...

Calling it a replacement would not be fair to Frank and severall other dealers that have audya in stock.

Its also obvious that audya has some features not on the sd9pro, and sd9pro has some features not on the audya..



Which still has ne wondering how honest AJs answer will be..


Edited by Bachus (04/11/16 12:03 AM)
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#419612 - 04/11/16 01:14 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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...Which still has ne wondering how honest AJs answer will be..


IF I get an answer at all...
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#419616 - 04/11/16 02:33 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Henni
Originally Posted By: Bachus
...Which still has ne wondering how honest AJs answer will be..


IF I get an answer at all...

When they release the new Audya there won't be any major differences maybe more RAM & 240 GB ssd but what else I don't see a need for more than they offer now in the SD9PRO I think Ketron going that way with all the keyboards using audio drums & guitars they might invest more in hardware but for the moment this is very satisfying model
what else do you need?


Edited by Speed (04/11/16 02:34 AM)
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#419617 - 04/11/16 02:47 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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I need everything the Audya already has plus everything the SD9PRO has in one unit. Not one or the other, one PLUS the other. Is this so hard to understand for some?
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#419623 - 04/11/16 05:41 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Henni
I need everything the Audya already has plus everything the SD9PRO has in one unit. Not one or the other, one PLUS the other. Is this so hard to understand for some?


Thats not going to happen they dropped some stuff from the Audya, and added some new wonderfull features instead.. Thats a fact, probably no full backward compatibillity either, as for example the audio Basses seem missing on the SD9..

They are just not meant to be replacements... Its a new instrument.. and not like Korg or Yamaha an upgrade from an excisting line (PA3x and tyros)

Originally Posted By: Henni
Originally Posted By: Bachus
...Which still has ne wondering how honest AJs answer will be..


IF I get an answer at all...



You have to undesrstand that AJ went to europe for the Musik Messe and probabl;y cant get onto his account from there.. So asking the same question over and over does not really help...

As long as the topic is up on the first page, AJ will answer it as soon as he has an answer for you and is able to post it..

Its not like AJ ever wandered away from answering questions...
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#419633 - 04/11/16 07:30 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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#419635 - 04/11/16 08:33 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Dnj]
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Nice picture Donny, good find...

When i look at that picture, and think about the instruments specs, i feel like its missing something elemental.... I think the pads of Casio Mz-x would hugely improve the operabillity...
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#419636 - 04/11/16 08:40 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Nice picture Donny, good find...

When i look at that picture, and think about the instruments specs, i feel like its missing something elemental.... I think the pads of Casio Mz-x would hugely improve the operabillity...


to be honest the pic is from the link rosetree posted I just opened it for posting....Thanx

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#419637 - 04/11/16 08:42 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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No, I am not mistrusting AJ. I'm trying to bring this thread back to topic. I asked a simple question. I expected yes or no, not for non Audya users to throw in their two cents worth...
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#419638 - 04/11/16 09:32 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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The location of the wheels would be a deal breaker for me, if there was a deal to break, but there isn't. I hated it on the Audya and is one of the reasons I sold it. The other was the weight.
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#419642 - 04/11/16 09:59 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: DonM]
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The location of the wheels would be a deal breaker for me, if there was a deal to break, but there isn't. I hated it on the Audya and is one of the reasons I sold it. The other was the weight.


Thats a matter of habbit, i think, tough it would have been better if the wheels would have been under an angle so the movement feels more naturall...

Also wondering why Korg is the only keyboard company offering a touchstrip on their arrangers... Nothing beets the korg Joystick combined with a touchstrip...
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#419643 - 04/11/16 10:09 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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...and that's another of the many reasons I'm playing Korg.
It's a matter of habit, but an unnatural one to have to raise your hand and lift it several inches, when the traditional location is easily reachable. I do much prefer the joystick, and it's one of the things I liked about SD7.
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#419644 - 04/11/16 10:17 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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We are all so different when it comes to personal playing Technics & habits,...everyone does it different and in their own comfort zone way....there is no right or wrong.....the only tell tale is what the music sounds like while your playing....enjoy what you play and how you play it.

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#419731 - 04/12/16 04:53 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Ah....

Where do I start? We just got back from Germany and are playing catch up, so if I am slow to get back you, please understand why.

To answer your question simply Henni, the answer is "No". The SD9 PRO offers features not found in AUDYA but which customers have asked for.
The AUDYA also offers features not found on the SD9 PRO with more to come in OS updates.
Although they share a lot in common (like Live Audio Drums, Live Audio Guitars ... etc), each customer will have to decide which of these units best fits their needs.

Having said that, I must say we had a lot of excitement at or booth this year where both products were present. Meeting distrbutors, dealers and users from all over the world was a plus and we want to say "THANK YOU" to all those who stopped by and for your contineous support for KETRON products.

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#419734 - 04/12/16 06:29 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Any Musikmesse demos on you tube?

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#419759 - 04/13/16 10:40 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Dnj]
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Hi AJ,

Thank you for your answer. I am relieved. This means in effect that the new Audya will have many more extra features than just those. Well worth waiting for.

All the best & may the SD9PRO sales surpass even your wildest expectations!

Henni
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#419762 - 04/13/16 11:05 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Hi AJ,

Thank you for your answer. I am relieved. This means in effect that the new Audya will have many more extra features than just those. Well worth waiting for.

All the best & may the SD9PRO sales surpass even your wildest expectations!

Henni


Who says there will be a new audya soon?

And soundwise, according to people that heard it on the messe, the sd9pro is way ahead of the audya...
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#419768 - 04/13/16 11:27 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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...And soundwise, according to people that heard it on the messe, the sd9pro is way ahead of the audya...


You should really get one then! As for me, I'll wait for the new Audya which WILL see the light, maybe even this year. The new casing is there, the new touchscreen ready, the SD9PRO features ready - not really all that much involved in creating it. And yes, it will have more than two outputs, it will have an onboard SSD etc. etc.

Now tell me again, how long did it take from the SD7 to the new SD9PRO...
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#419771 - 04/13/16 12:12 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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...And soundwise, according to people that heard it on the messe, the sd9pro is way ahead of the audya...


You should really get one then! As for me, I'll wait for the new Audya which WILL see the light, maybe even this year. The new casing is there, the new touchscreen ready, the SD9PRO features ready - not really all that much involved in creating it. And yes, it will have more than two outputs, it will have an onboard SSD etc. etc.

Now tell me again, how long did it take from the SD7 to the new SD9PRO...


I will not get one.... unless i get proof that service and reliability in europe have improved by about 6000 miles...

I do like the ideas of Ketron, however i have been dissapointed one time to much by their support overhere in europe...

Ketron showed of to be so typicall Italian, great ideas, great looks... but they should have left the building and support of their instruments to the Germans (or AJ)




And why they are not building a new Audya yet... because they are still selling the old one, and probably are stocked quite well on them... promoting the new SD9 as the Audya replacement would make them loose money on their current batch of Audya's...

Believe me, the SD9 is the only thing close to audya they will produce in the next few years... the instrument is allready so high end that it does not leave room for another instrument on top of that... just wayt till you see the price of the SD9


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#419772 - 04/13/16 12:24 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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... just wayt till you see the price of the SD9...


Not much more than the SD7. Going by Israel pricing, half the price of a new Tyros 5 in South Africa!

Originally Posted By: Bachus
... the instrument is allready so high end that it does not leave room for another instrument on top of that...


Aaah - Ketron will surprise everyone once again as they did with the Audya!
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#419775 - 04/13/16 01:50 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
... just wayt till you see the price of the SD9...


Not much more than the SD7. Going by Israel pricing, half the price of a new Tyros 5 in South Africa!

Originally Posted By: Bachus
... the instrument is allready so high end that it does not leave room for another instrument on top of that...


Aaah - Ketron will surprise everyone once again as they did with the Audya!


Surprise anyone?

Audya was announced a year before it hit stores, and was highly unreliable the first two years or so... And even before the audya announcement, there where rumors about the audio styles for over a year...
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#419788 - 04/13/16 10:37 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Believe me, the SD9 is the only thing close to audya they will produce in the next few years... the instrument is allready so high end that it does not leave room for another instrument on top of that... just wayt till you see the price of the SD9

I agree with you...
We will waiting for the real true.....


Edited by Sokratis 1974 (04/13/16 10:54 PM)
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#419789 - 04/14/16 12:02 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Ketron learned it's lesson. There was no rumors about the SD9PRO beforehand. I am convinced we will see a new Audya soon & it will once again be the flagship of all arrangers with even more ground breaking technology.

I cannot believe the rumors that the SD9PRO sounds so much better than the current Audya. So, I'll wait patiently until it is released which won't be all that long.

And no, I do not sit on the fence speaking for Ketron as if I know it all. I AM an actual Audya user & I am a happy customer & I've created my share of things for this stunning arranger.
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#419793 - 04/14/16 02:17 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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To me it looks like the SD9 Pro is, or will be Ketron's new "flagship".
I don't think there will be a new Audya, but some sofwareupdates as AJ say will come.
Guess there is a limit in the hardware how much updates it's possible without replace or add something.
By the time Ketron show up a new "top of the line" arranger kb I think it's going to be a SD9 succesor, maybe in both 61 and 76 key version.
Also popularity / quantity of sales will be very importand for the future steps. At the end, it's all about business. smile

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#419794 - 04/14/16 02:32 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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The Auyda was a failure in the Middle East.
Ketron need to Sell a lot SD9 keyboards to invest in the new Audya
it is strategy for them to earn money the sd9 will replace the legendary SD one that was a great success for them in the whole world at the end of the day the SD9 looks amazing more from the Audya for sure
the only way for them to sell the remaining Audya that in storage
is to update the os and give options that are missing and fix the glitches as For the old hardware there is nothing to do
I'm waiting for software update maybe I won't have to replace the Audya with the new SD9 the more I think about it I understand that
the next Audya will come but after meny years... Because they dont have too much to do or to add only cosmetic and memory and hard disk this is not enough for createing something like the new Audya


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#419801 - 04/14/16 05:20 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Told ya



Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
Ah....

Where do I start? We just got back from Germany and are playing catch up, so if I am slow to get back you, please understand why.

To answer your question simply Henni, the answer is "No". The SD9 PRO offers features not found in AUDYA but which customers have asked for.
The AUDYA also offers features not found on the SD9 PRO with more to come in OS updates.
Although they share a lot in common (like Live Audio Drums, Live Audio Guitars ... etc), each customer will have to decide which of these units best fits their needs.

Having said that, I must say we had a lot of excitement at or booth this year where both products were present. Meeting distrbutors, dealers and users from all over the world was a plus and we want to say "THANK YOU" to all those who stopped by and for your contineous support for KETRON products.

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#419805 - 04/14/16 08:15 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: frankieve]
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Originally Posted By: frankieve
Told ya



Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
Ah....

Where do I start? We just got back from Germany and are playing catch up, so if I am slow to get back you, please understand why.

To answer your question simply Henni, the answer is "No". The SD9 PRO offers features not found in AUDYA but which customers have asked for.
The AUDYA also offers features not found on the SD9 PRO with more to come in OS updates.
Although they share a lot in common (like Live Audio Drums, Live Audio Guitars ... etc), each customer will have to decide which of these units best fits their needs.

Having said that, I must say we had a lot of excitement at or booth this year where both products were present. Meeting distrbutors, dealers and users from all over the world was a plus and we want to say "THANK YOU" to all those who stopped by and for your contineous support for KETRON products.

Thanks,


people need to choose between 8 year old technollogy and new technollogy much more powerfull and according to AJ and others even better sounding... Both should be in the same price range..

So who is going to buy the older unit? (espescially since they havent bought that unit in the past 7 years)

I really hope you dont have many Audya76 on stock... only the audya4 and 5 will still be interesting for people...




Maybe its me, but i cant think of a single reson why to buy a 76 key audio now, if i havent bought it in the past 7 years...


Edited by Bachus (04/14/16 08:16 AM)
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#419808 - 04/14/16 09:01 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
..... Maybe its me, but i cant think of a single reson why to buy a 76 key audio now, if i havent bought it in the past 7 years...


That's a reasonable good point, unless you got as good bargain that you simply cannot let it go.
But, Audya is still a top keyboard that will serve many users for years to come. smile

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#419936 - 04/16/16 01:13 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Got some more information from people that visited the Messe and talked to someone there that must have been AJ....

While the SD9pro usese the same interface as the sd7, internally they are two very very different instruments, the SD9pro has an even more advanced soundengine then both the sd7 as well as the audya... Same goes for the style engine... Both are next generation..

The SD9pro has the high end keybed of the audya and not the keys of the SD7 pro..

Launchpad works like a style with 6 scenes that loop... It gowever has 12 tracks... And a track can be audio, midi or even an MP3.. The launchpad follows chordprogression just like a normal style...
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#419937 - 04/16/16 01:18 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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After playing them both personally I liked the SD7 keybed vs the Audya..so bachus are you thinking of adding a Ketron kb to your arsenal?


Edited by Dnj (04/16/16 01:19 PM)

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#419939 - 04/16/16 01:36 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Dnj]
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After playing them both personally I liked the SD7 keybed vs the Audya..so bachus are you thinking of adding a Ketron kb to your arsenal?


Does it have 88 keys? Is it my all in one solution?

But just like the Casio MZ-x. Ketron is still moving towards the future of arrangers, trying to addapt the current framework of an arranger to the needs of the musicians of today...
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#419942 - 04/16/16 02:34 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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That's the nice thing about modules (and they aren't dead): combine it with the keybed of your choice...

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#419945 - 04/16/16 03:08 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: ]
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Availabillity of sd9pro in europe is around planned in Oktober, so thats still 6 months away...
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#419965 - 04/17/16 02:27 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
Availabillity of sd9pro in europe is around planned in Oktober, so thats still 6 months away...


translated in Ketron terminology this means that it probably will be around BUG FREE in about two years time smile
As a musician be it a home user or a performer I see little point in getting my knickers in a twist about the prospect.

I guess the SD40 option is a better one as apparently most bugs have now been ironed out of the SD7. I am sure that eventually the streetprice of the SD40 module will be around 2000 euros in the shops here. Still a lot of dough though...

Many people here on the forum write about Ketron but how many actually own one and have done so for a considerable period of time ? I know Deane has and enjoys the SD7 while Bernie and Hennie commend the Audya . That's it ???
I am only saying that while the threads seem to imply loads of people are playin a Ketron and cannot wait to have the latest model the truth of the matter is that in the USA but also here in Holland and other European countries ( Italy excepted of course) the use of KEtron arrangers is not half as widespread as one is led to believe reading SZ forum content.
With the many options/models available by Yamaha and Korg this is not surprising in itself. Quality control with yamaha is rigid and (to the best of my knowledge) they have a good customer support. Korg used to be the same though with the arrival of the PA4X , its history of bugs and poor customer communcation I dread to say the same still applies. Ketron to me has always been top of the list as regards poor customer service, sorry AJ.

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#419966 - 04/17/16 03:06 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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SD9PRO around oktober this year?Ketron,come on.

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#419968 - 04/17/16 03:50 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: john smies]
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Originally Posted By: john smies
Originally Posted By: Bachus
Availabillity of sd9pro in europe is around planned in Oktober, so thats still 6 months away...


translated in Ketron terminology this means that it probably will be around BUG FREE in about two years time smile
As a musician be it a home user or a performer I see little point in getting my knickers in a twist about the prospect.

I guess the SD40 option is a better one as apparently most bugs have now been ironed out of the SD7. I am sure that eventually the streetprice of the SD40 module will be around 2000 euros in the shops here. Still a lot of dough though...

Many people here on the forum write about Ketron but how many actually own one and have done so for a considerable period of time ? I know Deane has and enjoys the SD7 while Bernie and Hennie commend the Audya . That's it ???
I am only saying that while the threads seem to imply loads of people are playin a Ketron and cannot wait to have the latest model the truth of the matter is that in the USA but also here in Holland and other European countries ( Italy excepted of course) the use of KEtron arrangers is not half as widespread as one is led to believe reading SZ forum content.
With the many options/models available by Yamaha and Korg this is not surprising in itself. Quality control with yamaha is rigid and (to the best of my knowledge) they have a good customer support. Korg used to be the same though with the arrival of the PA4X , its history of bugs and poor customer communcation I dread to say the same still applies. Ketron to me has always been top of the list as regards poor customer service, sorry AJ.

regards,
John


You can hardly find any Ketrons in Holland... Only 2 dealers... And so far many people on here have had one or more bad experiences with Ketron.....

ketron actually is a very small company and they just dont have the resources to test all their new gear to oblivion and back like yamaha does before release.. this makes buying a brand new Ketron instrument risky buiseness, better to wayt atleast a year like you said..

From the same order as the bugs in new software is the level of their customer service in europe, i have had some pretty bad experiences with them.. So you dont want to buy a used Ketron or one trough an online shop either, as you want to buy it with a dealer that has a good relationship with Ketron..


However, their soundquallity, and their functionallity in their high end units make them probably the most advanced arranger workstations out there, when it comes to arranging/accompaniment functions.

Each time they release a new high end product they create some GAS with me, even tough my mind tells me to staty away from it, but then making music is all about emotions isnt it?

Originally Posted By: audyaplayer
SD9PRO around oktober this year?Ketron,come on.


Which is probably a whole year to early... since its been confirmed that its whole new technollogy inside... the instrument currently is far from finished, guess thats the reason why we dont see any fancy video's of the instrument online yet...


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#419971 - 04/17/16 05:52 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Remember Franz Lambert uses an SD3, which is a good sign regarding reliability.
I think the small modules SD2, SD4, SD1000 and KlaviPro are relatively widespread, the expensive arrangers less so.

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#419974 - 04/17/16 06:07 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: ]
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Remember Franz Lambert uses an SD3, which is a good sign regarding reliability.
I think the small modules SD2, SD4, SD1000 and KlaviPro are relatively widespread, the expensive arrangers less so.


Franz Lambert started using the Sd3 when it was about 2 years old... It just takes Ketron some time before their instruments are reliable... Tough i guess once they are reliable they work like a charm..

The SD2 and SD1000 are a different story, they are based on the ketron propetriery soundengine... Which is relatively unchanged in those modules.. The sd1000 is an SD2 with just more and longer samples(and some drumloops)
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#419975 - 04/17/16 09:09 AM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
Originally Posted By: rosetree
Remember Franz Lambert uses an SD3, which is a good sign regarding reliability.
I think the small modules SD2, SD4, SD1000 and KlaviPro are relatively widespread, the expensive arrangers less so.


The SD2 and SD1000 are a different story, they are based on the ketron propetriery soundengine... Which is relatively unchanged in those modules.. The sd1000 is an SD2 with just more and longer samples(and some drumloops)


And the SD4 is an SD2 with buttons.
The Klavipro had one bizarre problem, one of the two main piano samples was strikingly out of tune. The better one, actually a really advanced concert piano sample, unfortunately had a lot of built-in ambiance that it sounded acute, and I had to switch a multi-band equalizer to remove the odd frequencies.

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#420068 - 04/19/16 02:49 PM Re: AJ, is the SD9PRO the new Audya? [Re: Henni]
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Very informative interview with a Ketron representative. It is in Italian, but everyone interested can try to use Google or Bing translator...
https://tastiere.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/novita-ketron-2016-una-conversazione-con-marcello-colo/

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