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#423036 - 07/07/16 07:08 AM
My Old Bose Compact Died
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I was setting up for a gig, and 25 minutes to showtime I discovered my Bose was not working. Luckily, I was 10 minutes from the house and ran back and got my Spacestation, so all was well.
When I turned on the Bose, the blue light would flash and go out. I tried different cords and outlets. I have thousands of hours on the unit as I used it in my studio everyday as well as gigs before I bought the Spacestation for larger venues.
Now, what to do? I will use the Spacestation on the outside to limit the hours put on it. I have a pair of Roland CM-30s I have been using for computer speakers to use. The sound in a 12x13 room isn't bad.
I am curious to know if anyone else has had a compact die on them.
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#423042 - 07/07/16 08:07 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Dnj]
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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won't that maintain all your needs, or? [/quote]
Yes, gig wise I am fine, but,as Gary said,---backup. If I was a gambling man, I might say the new Spacestation is enough. However, I am not, and, I am used to full sounding PA's when I am programming material so I know what the sound will be at a gig, although the CM-30's are probably close enough, but not for gigs. As Don says, maybe I will call Bose, but there are shipping costs too.
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#423045 - 07/07/16 08:30 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: shueymusic]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Jonathan, you have been up and down the road a few times and I agree. I must admit,however, I was stunned to have my trusty Bose take a dump on me. It just goes to show you, doesn't it?
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#423051 - 07/07/16 09:04 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Until recently, I had a pair of Bose L1 Compacts, never had a problem with the primary unit and the second unit was only used a handful of times for very large venues. Bose has a super service department, and yes, you will have to pay shipping one way, but in most instances, they will foot the bill for shipping back to you. Give them a call, and be sure to tell them that you are a full-time entertainer and they will provide you with very quick return time on your amp. As for the Bose Compact failure rate, according to everything I've read, that rate is very, very low, much lower than any other PA system. The CM30s should be left at home - they just don't cut it, and that is based upon a one-time use at an outdoor party. The guy at the local music store told me they were nothing more than a practice amp for guitar players, and not to use them for the work that I did. He was right. After two songs on the CM30s, I plugged into the Bose Compact and continued for the remainder of the night and rocked the pool party. Additionally, I know a dozen DJs and KJs here that use the Bose L1 and L1 Compact and they've never had a problem. So, I believe the folks on the Bose forum that said the failure rate is very, very low, much lower than any other PA system. Good Luck, Gary
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#423055 - 07/07/16 09:44 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
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[/quote] For very important weddings, I take this controller keyboard as a back-up keyboard, together with one of my small modules: http://www.roland.com/products/a-500s/It fits into the trunk and stays there during the gig, I bought a used one for just 85 euros. Even works on batteries. (EDIT: Warning: This one is discontinued, but the newer A-49 only works with a computer attached - VERY stupid.)[/quote] When I got a Roland A-49 a few years back, I, too, thought it was stupid the A-49 could not power up as a standalone. I found a trick on the internet. How do I power up my Roland A49 MIDI controller with a USB power supply (without a computer)? Article #1725357 Added on Jun 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM Hold the Function, Assign, and Pitch buttons while plugging the unit in to the power supply to enable the controller to receive power in standalone. Once you’ve done this, each subsequent boot should work normally with the power adapter without having to press that combination of buttons.
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#423057 - 07/07/16 11:22 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Torch]
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[/quote] For very important weddings, I take this controller keyboard as a back-up keyboard, together with one of my small modules: http://www.roland.com/products/a-500s/It fits into the trunk and stays there during the gig, I bought a used one for just 85 euros. Even works on batteries. (EDIT: Warning: This one is discontinued, but the newer A-49 only works with a computer attached - VERY stupid.) When I got a Roland A-49 a few years back, I, too, thought it was stupid the A-49 could not power up as a standalone. I found a trick on the internet. How do I power up my Roland A49 MIDI controller with a USB power supply (without a computer)? Article #1725357 Added on Jun 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM Hold the Function, Assign, and Pitch buttons while plugging the unit in to the power supply to enable the controller to receive power in standalone. Once you’ve done this, each subsequent boot should work normally with the power adapter without having to press that combination of buttons. [/quote] That works? Funny... A normal USB power adapter apparantly doesn't work. It's bizarre as I read the A-49 needs some kind of driver to work, either from PC or at least via iPad, but then that's obviously wrong...
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#423058 - 07/07/16 11:26 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Old Lazurus has arisen.
I brought the Compact into my studio to see if I was missing something. I turned it on an VOILA. It fired right up and works as good as ever. It could have been the cords, but I tried two. It wasn't a heat overload, as it was cold. The outlets were fine for everything else, which leaves internal connectivity. It might last a day or years, but I will no longer trust it at a gig without knowing the cause. I will just keep it my studio and use the Spacestation. Time will tell if I use it for backup.
Edited by Bernie9 (07/07/16 11:28 AM)
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#423070 - 07/07/16 01:58 PM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Dnj]
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Obviously, Carvin has been a respected name for years, but if it is primarily a bass amp and I have two subs, why this and not the Maui 5, if anything?
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#423076 - 07/07/16 03:55 PM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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7 to 10 jobs a week for my Bose L1 Compact, averaged 350 to 400 jobs a year, ever since the Compact became available in 2009 - never had a single problem. After 7 years of using it, I took the backup amp out of the van - never needed it! Now that I've retired, the only gear in the van is the Rock And Roller cart, which I sometimes use to haul gear down the sidewalk to the boat. Looks like the Bose L1 Compact held up better than I did! Gary
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#423084 - 07/07/16 05:04 PM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2445
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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[quote=Bernie9]Obviously, Carvin has been a respected name for years, but if it is primarily a bass amp and I have two subs, why this and not the Maui 5, if anything?
Backup is why. The Carvins preform pretty well full range.
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#423085 - 07/07/16 05:06 PM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
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The trick does work on the Roland A49. Any USB power source will turn it on. I have my A49 sitting right next to me and as always just now I was able to turn it on from a USB battery pack. One of the reasons I bought the A49 was because I "thought" from looking at the midi din out I could use it without a computer except that how do you power it with a PC??? That was when I found the trick on the net. It is not even mentioned in the manual. Just recently I purchased a USB MIDI host along with some other midi gadgets including a midi breath controller. The USB MIDI host, of course, will power the A49 no problem. Then I tried Samsung USB chargers and two different USB battery packs to turn on the A49 and send midi out. I don't like when manufacturers have features in their products that either they themselves don't know about or fail to mention in the manual. For very important weddings, I take this controller keyboard as a back-up keyboard, together with one of my small modules: http://www.roland.com/products/a-500s/It fits into the trunk and stays there during the gig, I bought a used one for just 85 euros. Even works on batteries. (EDIT: Warning: This one is discontinued, but the newer A-49 only works with a computer attached - VERY stupid.) When I got a Roland A-49 a few years back, I, too, thought it was stupid the A-49 could not power up as a standalone. I found a trick on the internet. How do I power up my Roland A49 MIDI controller with a USB power supply (without a computer)? Article #1725357 Added on Jun 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM Hold the Function, Assign, and Pitch buttons while plugging the unit in to the power supply to enable the controller to receive power in standalone. Once you’ve done this, each subsequent boot should work normally with the power adapter without having to press that combination of buttons. [/quote] That works? Funny... A normal USB power adapter apparantly doesn't work. It's bizarre as I read the A-49 needs some kind of driver to work, either from PC or at least via iPad, but then that's obviously wrong...[/quote]
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#423106 - 07/08/16 05:33 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I just remembered I have a Peavey KB300 amp with a Black Widow speaker stored in my band room. I bought two in the late eighties, but they weigh about 95 lbs apiece. I wonder if the tone stacks up at all with modern amps. I loaned it to the band 10 yrs ago for visiting players, and forgot how it sounds. They sounded wonderful then, but so did my old D-50 KB.
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#423109 - 07/08/16 06:27 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I put wheels on after the second time out.
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#423112 - 07/08/16 08:42 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2445
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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I just remembered I have a Peavey KB300 amp with a Black Widow speaker stored in my band room. I bought two in the late eighties, but they weigh about 95 lbs apiece. I wonder if the tone stacks up at all with modern amps. I loaned it to the band 10 yrs ago for visiting players, and forgot how it sounds. They sounded wonderful then, but so did my old D-50 KB. Great amp for its time but most guys forgo keyboard amps these days in favor of powered PA type speakers. Much better sound quality, more power, lighter, and you can put them up on stands. I had two similar amps made by Crate, KX220s. They were great but once I got my JBL's they were gone.
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#423117 - 07/08/16 11:06 AM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Jerry T]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I too had the Classic before the Compact. After about 6 years, the sub went out. It was ok for a while,but happened again so got a Compact. During all of these years I had only one amp. This meant it was on 10 to 12 hrs a day plus gig time. That is a helluva lot of hours, so I can't say anything against Bose.
As far as the Peavey is conscerned, I know you guys are right. It will stay in the band room. My Compact is doing fine, so I will leave it in the van for backup. The Peavey can be a backup backup.
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#423129 - 07/08/16 01:54 PM
Re: My Old Bose Compact Died
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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dnj: Leave it in the van? In Florida heat?
Not usually. You mean that maybe was the cause of the temporary failure?
Edited by Bernie9 (07/08/16 01:56 PM)
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