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#423241 - 07/12/16 03:08 AM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Mark79100]
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The sound of a Midi file is determined by the quality of the sounds in the instrument you play the Midi file on, in addition for compatibility they normally use the GM sounds on the instrument, which on most hardware instruments are not the best, (If you have dedicated Midi files for a particular instrument only the best sounds are used) so you will need to change them to get the best sound of the Midi file on your particular instrument.
Remember, Midi is NOT an Audio file, but a simple data file that musical instruments can understand.
Hope this helps
Bill
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#423271 - 07/12/16 11:48 AM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Mark79100]
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I see where you are coming from, however the only time I use Midi files, is if I need the score, which can be produced from most Midi Sequencers. (NOTE: If your keyboard does Midi markers then you can use it as a Midi style, or indeed convert it into a style)
The arrangement sounds okay to me, however music is such a personal thing, only you can decide if it suits.
As it’s a free download, why not just download it and see if it suits your need.
Hope this helps
Bill
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#423276 - 07/12/16 12:50 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Mark79100]
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Donny, I'm still patiently awaiting to hear one of those backing tracks you have created so meticulously and use on stage. And, style files, for the most part, are nothing more than looping midi files. They can be used right out of the box, or very creatively, depending upon the playing skills of the performer. Gary
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#423284 - 07/12/16 01:44 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Mark79100]
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Maybe it's me, Donny, but if that is a custom backing track, to me, it sounds no different than any onboard style. You did a great job with the song, but as I've said in the past, I really don't hear any difference between you singing over a style or midi file. Gary
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#423292 - 07/12/16 03:53 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: rikkisbears]
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that's the point Gary,......you shouldn't notice that at all.... adding/removing parts here and there using the KB and changing the arrangement to suit your particular style is what it's all about. All done on the PC. all the best Hi Donny, I'm not too good on picking up individual tracks in a backing, was it basically a style with added string tracks, ( luv those soaring strings) styles normally don't play those type of string parts except in intro's / endings? Rikki so much more can be done adding parts, some are style parts mixed with Mp3 tracks, others just a simple Mp3 track beefed up with extra parts using the arranger KB,...you can play on top, add string pads, different EFX, cut and paste parts here and there and so many other tricks of the trade creating your backing tracks the way You want them to sound for performance using a good program like Mixcraft 7, Pro Tools, Cubase, etc,.it's fun to experiment and try new things with your music, plus you can play on top too leaving out certain parts, And I agree with a repetitious style some things just cant be done. There are pros & cons to both methods. Give it a try you will be surprised at what you can do taking it step by step, it's fun also. take care
Edited by Dnj (07/12/16 03:56 PM)
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#423293 - 07/12/16 04:43 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Thanks Donny, I was referring to that particular song you shared, I was assuming you'd added the strings to a style ( possibly even more tracks)but the strings stood out for me.
It's funny how we dumb a midifile down to turn it into a style ( guilty) when the original midifile sounds so much better.
Been playing round with a midifile of sentimental journey. It has some wonderful string parts that can't be duplicated in a style. Yes, I can replicate the intro and ending, but I can't replicate the melodic string parts, they all but have to be dumbed down to a pad. My time would probably be better spent tweaking the midifile with better sounds than the Gm ones it has.
I did do a style way back for my pa800. I basically chopped a midifile into sections. No Chord Changes, but I could play a verse or a chorus as I chose, by just pressing the variations. Gave a bit more freedom than just playing the midifile straight. Only thing it did, was limit me to 8 tracks, but it was enough. The whole style was based on the settings for an intro,
Given me good for thought Donny.
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#423295 - 07/12/16 05:01 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Thanks Donny, I was referring to that particular song you shared, I was assuming you'd added the strings to a style ( possibly even more tracks)but the strings stood out for me.
It's funny how we dumb a midifile down to turn it into a style ( guilty) when the original midifile sounds so much better.
Been playing round with a midifile of sentimental journey. It has some wonderful string parts that can't be duplicated in a style. Yes, I can replicate the intro and ending, but I can't replicate the melodic string parts, they all but have to be dumbed down to a pad. My time would probably be better spent tweaking the midifile with better sounds than the Gm ones it has.
I did do a style way back for my pa800. I basically chopped a midifile into sections. No Chord Changes, but I could play a verse or a chorus as I chose, by just pressing the variations. Gave a bit more freedom than just playing the midifile straight. Only thing it did, was limit me to 8 tracks, but it was enough. The whole style was based on the settings for an intro,
Given me good for thought Donny. Rikki are you using a DAW program like the ones mentioned in my post, etc,?....recording into your PC using your KB and then turning the finished product into a backing track to use in any way you wish can give you much more freedom and editing power then just on your KB..good luck there are no rules ...
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#423299 - 07/12/16 07:41 PM
Re: MIDI file opinions
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
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Rikki are you using a DAW program like the ones mentioned in my post, etc,?....recording into your PC using your KB and then turning the finished product into a backing track to use in any way you wish can give you much more freedom and editing power then just on your KB..good luck there are no rules ...
Hi Donny, Nothing fancy. I still use the old XG works sequencer for converting my PSR styles across to Korg. Perfect for that because it is so simple. I had basic version of sonar, which I never used, I didn't bother updating when my yearly subscription ran out. Also have Real Band which comes as part of the Band in a Box package. This one does support audio. Plus, one can import Biab midi/audio tracks into an existing midifile. This is something I may start exploring again if I get into doing MP3 /wav backing tracks for my korg. Got the old brain ticking over again haha. Thanks Donny.
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