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#423303 - 07/12/16 09:23 PM final verdict on the PA4x?
Mark79100 Offline
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Registered: 10/23/06
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I have no great desire to get back into playing live music......because......I have no desire to play this PA3x that I currently have. I have no desire to play the PA3x......because......I'm not happy with those styles. Too many country and rock and not enough traditional. And the styles are over-done and in your face and not enough variations.

But I do love everything else about the keyboard. So I've been watching a lot of videos that are demo-ing the PA4x. I'm very impressed with the new styles. Or what I heard anyway. But what I did hear comes across as very playable.

Aside from the sounds, can anyone tell me about the styles? Do you think they're an improvement, sound quality much better, about how many new ones are there, do they now have decent marches, Strauss, tarantella, Irish jig, paso doble, etc? They're limp in the PA3x.

I'm thinking about "eating" this PA3x and hitting the bank account for a 4x. Frank already gave me a good price. If you guy advise me there's a noticeable difference in the two units, my next step will be to drive up to Frank's place to try one out.

Mark

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#423310 - 07/13/16 01:23 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: Mark79100]
guitpic1 Offline
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Registered: 04/16/14
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Loc: Missouri
Mark,

No experience with a PA 3X and...

I'm sure you'll hear from those older and wiser than me... smile

That said.

I'm now using a PA 4X. I also have a Yamaha Tyros 4(going on sale)and S970. The styles on the PA 4X are not as wide and deep as my Yammies...especially traditional/folk.

However, I've been able to adapt PA 4X styles(for the most part) to my needs. I play two to three times a week(or more) for seniors. I very much like the 4X styles...very alive and the seniors I play for also seem to like it.

Also I really like the 4X interface and controls for live play...more so than my Yammies. If all goes well, I'll sell both Yammies and settle on the 4X.


Edited by guitpic1 (07/13/16 01:24 AM)
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#423313 - 07/13/16 04:16 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: guitpic1]
Bachus Offline
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Mark, there is a huge collection of high quallity pa3x/pa4x user styles available....

Did you try and addapt these user styles for your needs?


Now i am not really an expert on Korg, but i think there should be enough high quallity user styles available for both these instruments....

I dont think the overall style selections for pa3x and pa4x are very much diffenernt? But if you have a large collection of high quallity midi files, you might convert them in styles for the pa4x...


When it comes to Yamaha, the number of high quallity usable user styles for traditionall music is nearly unlimmited...
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#423317 - 07/13/16 05:45 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: Mark79100]
mirza Offline
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Pa4x is more of a performance arranger. It's built for stage. You would probably be better of with S970 if you want to play what you mentioned in your post.
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#423326 - 07/13/16 07:36 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: Mark79100]
rosetree
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What about the "Musikant" version of PA-4X? It should be full of traditional styles.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/korg_pro_pa_4x61_musikant.htm

http://www.korg.com/de/products/synthesizers/p4x_musikant/

Korg seems to offer this specifically for German-language countries (DACH). I don't know if it is available for North America.


Edited by rosetree (07/13/16 07:51 AM)

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#423339 - 07/13/16 10:38 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: Mark79100]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Well I love it, as you know. There are lots of new styles, and the old ones sound way better because of the new sound generation system.
All styles from previous models work, including Musikant, and they sound better on the 4X. Love the new guitars in particular!
I will probably have this kb until one or both of us fall apart.
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#423342 - 07/13/16 11:58 AM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally Posted By: DonM

I will probably have this kb until one or both of us fall apart.


Or until Tyros 6 is released, just sayin'.... coffee

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#423344 - 07/13/16 12:34 PM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: Mark79100]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Pa4x has my vote. Pretty much what Don Mason said!

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#423349 - 07/13/16 03:00 PM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: DonM]
guitpic1 Offline
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Loc: Missouri
Originally Posted By: DonM
Well I love it, as you know. There are lots of new styles, and the old ones sound way better because of the new sound generation system.
All styles from previous models work, including Musikant, and they sound better on the 4X. Love the new guitars in particular!
I will probably have this kb until one or both of us fall apart.


Don,

On guitars 4X...

I find the Strat/Les Paul sounds to be good...or overdriven guitars. The acoustic guitars and steel seem to be lacking compared to my Yammies.

What are the new guitars that you like?
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#423350 - 07/13/16 03:10 PM Re: final verdict on the PA4x? [Re: guitpic1]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
I have the S970 and PA4x, and while the S970 is a great improvement over the S910 and S950, all around, there is no question in my mind that the Korg is king for performance.

Like Don, we'll grow old together.

Bernie
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