Hi Rikki,

I'm glad you're back in business here. You bring a whole new dimension to the group. Not to mention a whole new bank of knowledge.

You already sent me quite a few of the styles you have (originals and modified). I counted 8 ZIP files from you. And, altogether, 307 ZIP files on my hard drive that I have to open yet. But I'm sure you've got more material since I received those files from you a few years ago.



Yes, thanks, I will keep that in mind. The Musikant demo's by Jurgen were the reason I bought this in the first place. I have some Musikant ZIP files here, maybe you can help me figure them out.

I'm still trying to get a decent cha-cha, tango, rhumba and a few other traditionals.

Jurgen Sartorius home page

Jurgen Sartorius styles




Yes, this time around I will do some serious thinking. Have even considered switching back to Yamaha, but the "build" is not as virtuous as the PA3.



That's putting it mildly, Rikki. Now, this is going to sound crazy to you, but I never heard it on my big speaker system. The only time I heard it unleashed was back before I owned one and I was playing it at Sam Ash. Been using earphones since I bought it. Sometimes I wonder about myself.

Thanks again for offering your help. I'm going to do what you said and take a whole day trying out what styles I do have here. I'm hoping the Musikant styles fill the bill if I/we can tweak them. I only want to get 10-15 basic styles.

Mark

Rikki.....I've just been watching a few Jurgen video's. Example:

KORG PA500 MUSIKANT

I'm really into those Musikant styles. And watch how clever he uses those styles (pads, drum breaks, etc).

First things first. I never quite understood the different Musikant models. Can you, or anyone, tell me exactly what Musikant keyboards they have\had in Europe. I didn't even know there was a PA-500 Musikant.

I'm assuming each Musikant model had their own styles.

If I'm correct, when the PA3x came out here there was the same unit in Europe but with different styles (more European). Then the same thing with the 4X.

What European boards are my unaware of? Do ALL European Musikant styles have to be tweaked to play correctly on the PA3x?

Kawai has some digital piano's that have a real soundboard in there..

Digital Piano's like yamaha cvp have a specially created amp and speaker system that allows the. To come closer to a real piano sound then an arranger currently does...

Same goes for the montage... Their A/D conversion has parts that make a piano sound more naturall ..

And then there is the high end VSTs like pianoteq that are not sample based, but are a mathematicall model that calculates the sound


There have been done some tests where people where asked to tell the real piano's from the digital piano's and most musicians and most had a hard time doing so...




Yet still people have preferences in sound, i prefer a Steinway or Fazioli over a Yamaha sound grand... Current high end digital piano's are that good, that its a matter of prefference what sampled model to use...

[quote=Mark79100]

You already sent me quite a few of the styles you have (originals and modified). I counted 8 ZIP files from you. And, altogether, 307 ZIP files on my hard drive that I have to open yet. But I'm sure you've got more material since I received those files from you a few years ago.

[quote=rikkisbears]
Hi Mark,
not sure if what you have is all them.
Mine are favourites 1 to 15. Basically includes every factory style I came across that wasn't on my pa3x. Did you actually buy some of Jurgen's styles? If so I got the impression they were available for the regular korgs as well as the musikant versions, but I could be wrong. My German is all but non existent and my iPad didn't give me a translation option.


I also play rhumba etc so maybe we can sort something out for you, maybe something could be converted if the musikants don't fit the bill.

Unfortunately it's late, I'll be back tomorrow .

P.s
You would have luved my piano's.
I had 5ft baby Yamaha grand .

And the most amazing one was my 1990 Yamaha disklavier.
Upright midi acoustic. I used to have my Roland arranger module midied to it. Sometimes my keyboards.
Unfortunately both had to go when we downsized our home. No room.

After 5 gigs with the 4X, I have no doubts that the 4X is more gig friendly than my Yammies...controls and songbook wise.

The styles and voices/sounds are a trade off between the Korg and the Yamaha. For example, where I used to do more bluegrass styles on my S970, I now do more country types of styles for my older tunes. And so it goes.

It's also obvious that the Korg is easier to edit styles/voices and I'm hoping to get better at that as time goes on.

Rog L

Hi Rog
Voice editing, I've never really been involved with, I was silly enough to put together a sampled Ketron live drumkit for a single style i 'd converted, an orchestral swing. Really luved that style.

The style editing/creating I s brilliant in the Korg's. You can copy style tracks to pads & vice versa. You can export the style as a midifile to a sequencer for editing. Unlike with the Yamaha , each of the style tracks can be event list edited in the keyboard itself.
The list of stuff that can be done is pretty amazing, and I don 't even have the song to style convertor in my pa3x(darn).

Great to hear you 're enjoying your korg, if you need any extra styles ( prior korg keyboards) you 're welcome to have a copy.

All Korg needs to do is put the pa4x and the kronos in a single instrument.... And then call it the KORGan... With two 76 key manualls, upper waterfall, lower weighted piano action...and joystick and 16 drumpads to the left side...

Price about €6000 - 7000 weight under 20 kg..


I think KORGAN or K-ORG-AN sounds really cool

Tx Rikki

quit stirring an empty pot!