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#424106 - 08/01/16 08:19 AM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Bachus,Here are a few answers..
The g70 has one of the best search designs.
When you select a song, style, or user program..touch the finder tab and select the search only tab..

The d-beam has to take the place of pads..and other features of d-beam are a plus..

Style volume shows what you need ..drum, bass, acc1 etc.
Select style make up, and all edits and info are shown.

Where do you need a quicker access than the g70 design..

With the right exp board, you have sounds covered.. I use the Studio board...

Don,at 46 pounds it could be too much for you old guys grin
My Gator case with wheels, loaded pocket with stuff...doubles the weight.Now that is heavy for us fit guys smile
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#424107 - 08/01/16 08:34 AM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roland-G-70-Auto-Arranger-Keyboard-Piano-Music-Mixer-All-Manuals-Stand-/252476245464?hash=item3ac8c1c5d8:g:Rw4AAOSw3YNXZ~9H


Edited by Dnj (08/01/16 08:39 AM)

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#424108 - 08/01/16 10:45 AM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Bachus,Here are a few answers..
The g70 has one of the best search designs.
When you select a song, style, or user program..touch the finder tab and select the search only tab..

The d-beam has to take the place of pads..and other features of d-beam are a plus..

Style volume shows what you need ..drum, bass, acc1 etc.
Select style make up, and all edits and info are shown.

Where do you need a quicker access than the g70 design..

With the right exp board, you have sounds covered.. I use the Studio board...

Don,at 46 pounds it could be too much for you old guys grin
My Gator case with wheels, loaded pocket with stuff...doubles the weight.Now that is heavy for us fit guys smile


I am sorry Fran.. But i was talking about multipads.. Not pads as in pads and piano..

Maybe its me not being entirely used to the search function on the G70, i will try next time i sit behind it..

You missed my point on the style volume... When i want to edit the style quickly it says acc1 to acc5 on the volume tab.. And no reference what the instrument in each of those 5 acc is.. Thats a pitty... Espescially since its almost a requirement to finetune every style to sound best for a performance...


Keep in mind, that i do love the G70 still after all those years... Its one of the longest living arrangers of its time, because who is still playing a Tyros1. An sd1 or a Pa1x pro? Because that was its competition when it arived at the market... Yet still plethora of people playing G70 and E80...

Maybe because Roland slacked? Tough BK9 ( chord sequencer, super natural sounds, audiokeys) and E-A7 ( multipads, lots of direct access, sampler) also have a lot to offer for their much lower price...

Cant wayt to see Roland finally make a ToTl arranger again... Just add the Integra 7 as the soundsource.. The e-a7 as the arranger part(but with 2 colortouchscreens).. And the JP80 live sets for the keyboard parts... And a bit of the newer ACB tech... Autumn 2016 would be as good as any time to release such a thing.. Oh and the keybed of the G70.
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#424155 - 08/02/16 02:17 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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There's not a Roland harmonizer that can come up to the standard of the TC. Fran is almost deaf, and that's why he likes his trusty, crusty Roland. G70 vocals always sound too synthy for me. It's a vocoder sound all the way.
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#424156 - 08/02/16 02:45 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Hahaha this takes "subjective" to a new level!!

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#424161 - 08/02/16 06:30 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Comments from someone that never played a G 70. smile
After several days of comparing the Korg pa4x to the Roland g70....Final results...g70 easily beats the pa4x..
Sounds like scat, choir,piano and electric piano, are horrible compared to g70.
Even organs are better on g70...drums too.

GM sound set leaves a lot to be desired on the pa4x..
OS is a nightmare on Korg ..compared to the ease of Roland g70..

Anytime you want me to prove the above facts..call me..breakfast first grin

After this week with Roland the winner in the above categories...I bought a Roland e-a7..it will be here in a couple days..mid line Korg and Yamaha, just won't cut it... wink
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#424162 - 08/02/16 06:39 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
BTW: Kudos to Korg for allowing a micro sd card, closed battery compartment. Worked perfectly..

What is it with the manual bass...no volume control or selection? frown
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#424163 - 08/02/16 06:47 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Fran congratulations on your new EA7 now I have to buy you breakfast and come over and try it out soon!!

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#424164 - 08/02/16 07:47 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Wait and see if I like it...
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#424165 - 08/02/16 08:36 PM Re: First impression Korg PA4X [Re: Fran Carango]
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
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Loc: Motown
I have never been happier then when I was playing my G-70, but for one hour gigs for 50 people the weight was prohibitive. I am very happy with my s950 and other S's I've owned. But if a stray G70 shows up nearby for a great price, I might take one last shot with it. (I've seem to have said that a few times before!)

BTW, I want to thank Fran and a few others who continue to buy, sell and review equipment for us. It makes those boards available for a few less dollars for us others. I haven't bought a NEW keyboard in a few years - always looking for B stock and the like.
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