Keyboard sets.

Most of the keyboard sets(Yamaha=Voices) that are assigned to the Korg styles I use don't work for what I want to do.

Anybody had much experience creating custom keyboard sets for styles with the 4X?

Are there tutorials on creating sets?

Tx

Rog Lee

Sometimes I think my ideal keyboard would be a PA 4X with Yamaha voices.

Why.... Not happy with korg sounds? Can't you tweak edit to your liking....

Just set up the four sounds that you want with a particular style and save to Songbook!

I'm too new with Korg to form an opinion on Korg voices....other than acoustic guitar and steel guitar....Yamaha shines there.

I'm guessing I'll figure out how to get what I want for voices on my Korg when I work more with it....my winter project.

In the meantime I'm scrambling learning the Korg OS and performing three times a week with my 4X. At present, Yamaha voices are easier for me to navigate than Korg.

That said, even with only six weeks of live performance with my Korg compared to a few years of live performance with Yamaha....I would still choose my 4X.

Don,

I might be missing something here...but...

Korg might show a keyboard set of four of whatever.

Let's say I trade keyboard set #2 which might be a whistle and make it a piano. When I save it to songbook, the whistle choice shows whistle but plays piano...fine.

Here's the thing, when I'm using lyrics, I have to remember that whistle now = piano. Can be a bit confusing.

You can rename it when you save it. Touch the T icon and name it correctly.

I am enjoying the Korg Pa4X but after having a Tyros 5 and a Ketron SD7
I find the saxes are not as good on the Korg as on the T-5 or SD7
Other voices are fine to me but NOT the saxes. Anyone else find this
true or am I alone in this thinking ? Lloyd

Songbook change instruments

Main Page right side:

1-Tap the instrument you want to change
2-Pop up menu --- select the instrument
3-Select Songbook ---- then Book Edit 1
4-Left side of window select Write Current and just below select Write Current again.

This step is important.

5-Center of page you are on just below ALL STS select the large T with the instrument name to the right of it.
6-Pop menu. Clear name and write the name of the instrument you have chosen. Press OK.
7-To the right of the new name you will see: To an arrow. Press the arrow. Select which STS 1, 2, 3, or 4.

This brings you back to your Songbook page, Book Edit 1.
8- Press Write -- new page press OK. --- press Yes. The new instrument's name and sound will be the same

Hope this helps, John C.

PS, I have taken the time to write this step by step because it confused the hell out of me when I got my Korg. Don bailed me out.

To save a keyboard set to global, you need to push the KEYBOARD SET LIBRARY button for over more then a seccond. A new Global keyboard set can be loaded to any style..

To save a Keyboard set to a style, you need to push the KEYBOARD SET button under the display for more then a seccond, it opens up a dialogue where you can save your edditied keyboard set under a new name.


There is more to it tough, its al in chapter 16 of the user manuall

I found one of the problems about receiving help is that we give information to others with terms we have become familiar with. The person who played a Yamaha or Technics for many years approaches a Korg keyboard not understanding; he needs help at his level.

Learning the OS of a Korg keyboard is not an easy task. Korg thinks differently – the reason; there are more options. Once learned it is a piece of cake.

I posted a step-be-step on how to change instruments and instrument names in SongBook. The next step would be to learn how to change the STS instrument settings (four of them) in the factory styles. When you select a factory style it automatically selects the four STS instruments; they can be changed. Time allows I will post the steps needed.

John C.

John, Don and others,

Many thanks to you all for all the help...very much appreciated.

I have downloaded the manual(rtfm :)) to my iPad and do review that pretty regularly.

I'm hoping that by next spring I have a pretty good handle on this.

Tx again all.

Rog L

Rog is the KORG OS that difficult to learn?
Personally I dislike KORGS "Folder system" of doing things but as with all of them under pressure I adapted and managed to learn them all,...I still find Ketron the most difficult out of them all.

Coming from the briliant Technics OS (during many years) I've found that convert to Ketron, Korg MA and then Yamaha was a kind of nightmare.
But, at the end I think it's more the willing to learn and adapt rather than the difficulty.
Imagine if there all that sudden was only a totally new OS whatever keyboard we bougt? Would that be a reason enough to just hold on to the "old" we have, or would we jump on board to the future?

Nowadays I'm not digging too much into all technical "goodies", but mostly find a suitable (hopefully good sounding) style and play whatever comes to my mind.
No gigging and just play as a hobby at home is great, and I think it won't be too difficult to get started withe the PA4X, whenever it will be...

I'm quite familiar with the OS systems of all the top arrangers. Each has its weaknesses and strengths. I think Korg is easiest, not because I have one but because of the ease of quickly accessing things.
I did enjoy the Roland system quite a bit, but didn't like having all the external files in one big folder. Great that Roland does a great job guessing at the chords in midi files, and the Makeup tools and such was very nice.
Technics has totally changed from its earlier system and is much easier and better now, but they sure do some things "funny".
I've never been a fan of Yamaha's OS, although I know it inside out. Too much stuff is just not done logically. I do appreciate the ease of accessing external styles though.

anything edited, etc, on the kbs should be SAVED with one push of a button, even in real time!..without a glitch.

Korg's Songbook/Setlist is just the best for live play. I like it better than Yamaha's registration system....but they are two different animals altogether.

I always like KETRON Midjay pro OS as you can Play & mix all formats simultaneously sty,smf,mp3,wav,fx, which is awesome all controlled with separate sliders,...try that with any other arranger.Not to mention it sounds incredible live ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZxtsawH8bM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2f2aFSTp8

That's totally doable on PA4X. Just save to Songbook. And you have two full rows of programmable sliders if you need more volume controls.

Don can you play a style and a smf or mp3 at the same time with slider control on Pa4x also? I Like what the PA4x can achieve but
I am going in a different direction musically now and have to retool my gear a bit for my needs,..

I really don't know. Never saw a need to do that. I know the Ketrons can.

for example your playing a style song lets say.................
you next song is a smf/mp3 track etc song, I like to overlap at the end and start the next song without any in-between time hence why I need to segway changes in-between songs when people are dancing. I know with my PA3x KORG had the dual smf player although awkward to search, load, use live it did work to a point..

Yeah, that must be hard while trying to balance on two wheels .

Just pulling your chain, Donny - try 'Segue'.

Your friendly spelling police,
chas

lol yea what can I say I went to public school...

Donny ... I don't know why you found the KORG dual smf players awkward to search, etc. ... On the Pa900 I don't find it difficult at all ... just as easy as going from one 'style' to another ...
However, I do find it exasperating sometimes to have to make sure the player is stopped before going to a style ... but nothing is perfect ...

Tony when you have to make split second decisions, searches thru thousands of songs, etc, and changes it becomes awkward to use,..nothing beats a laptop on stage for this I find up till now...but who knows whats coming ..

Donny, c'mon ... you played a KORG ... you KNOW it is not that difficult to learn ...
Yes, I had a problem when I got my first Pa600 and you helped me quite a bit, but once I got used to the terminology and related it to how the 'technics' OS worked it became a LOT easier ...
And I am not sure of what you mean by the "Folder" system ...

Donny, perhaps using a laptop is easier, but we are talking about using the KB ... I just don't find it THAT difficult ...