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#425343 - 08/27/16 03:28 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Bachus]
rikkisbears Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bachus


As a soundbank, best results reported indeed come from Ketron SD1000...(toigh sd2 is also still very good) the SD1000 has pretty much the same sounds as the SD7... Where the SD2 goes back to pre audya soundsources of the SD5 and SD1..

There are also a lot of people reporting good results using the Motif XF and MOXF as the soundsource... Espescially the demo's of moesieurs show this.

Apparently the high quallity of the new sound sources ( which are €100 each) is xlose or sometimes even better then the sound of the TOTL arrangers of that brand.. But so far its hard to find any demo videos of this... These soundsources run in the build in synth from Varranger on your PC, not requiring a hardware soundsource anymore..


The good thing is Dann keeps taking this to higher and higher levels every few months...with new features and better integration...


Hi Bachus

no doubt the sd1000 would be far better than the sd2.

My thinking on the subject is, if you have a dedicated sound source for XG styles, dedicated source for Ketron etc they would probably have to sound better than one that is generic.
The sd2 was great back when varranger only played Ketron styles, and Dan did his best to make sd2 compatible with XG styles , etc. but there must be some sort of internal conversion in varranger software to make XG sounds play the correct sounds in an sd2, especially when it comes to drum mapping. The sd2 did a great job on the Ketron styles.
At the time, I had a PSR , so never got round to using it for PSR styles.

I actually converted a couple of my old sd1 styles across to korg. Had no hope of getting the Ketron live drum track part of the style working. Midied my sd2 to the korg and the style sounded almost as good as the original. In the end I got some sd2 live drum samples and loaded those into the Korg instead.

I just tend to think, if there is a dedicated sound source for the brand of styles you want to play, it would sound better?
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#425344 - 08/27/16 03:31 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
How does stack up OMB 11 vs Varranger ?


Hi Donny,
Omb only plays PSR styles, depends what you're aiming for.
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#425350 - 08/27/16 04:56 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: DAN.2000]
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Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
Hello Donny,

I have received your email.
I want to understand better, what is your goal, your need, your dreams... before to answer about vArranger ... DAW ... Controllers .......
Is it for live? studio? fun? vacation? replacing your PSR?


I was thinking of using a controller KB or maybe S970 and vArranger at home in studio,.....coupled with my Mixcraft pro DAW as a sound source for styles Yamaha,KORG , ketron etc, etc,..for recording ..

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#425354 - 08/27/16 07:28 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
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If your goal is recording, you don't really need a controller.
Whay you can do is selecting a style, entering your song's chords in a grid, put the intros, variation, fill in ending in the grid, then.... export to midifile

Import this generated midifile into Mixcraft pro DAW, and continue the good work. Assign every sound to your usual VST sounds.... etc...

Do you have any experience in recording and using virtual instruments in Mixcraft?
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#425355 - 08/27/16 07:36 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
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Usually I just record directly into the Daw live and multitrack.....then edit from there,eq,fx,mixdown,master,etc..

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#425391 - 08/28/16 03:41 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
DAN.2000 Offline
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Cool if you can record perfect one shot smile

When you do this, your song is not perfectly in time with the measures of the DAW. no?

The good thing with the vArranger midifile export, is that the styles notes will be in time, but you will need to record the melody in the DAW

If you want to use Mixcraft as your sound source. What king of instruments do they have? any GM soundset ?
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#425392 - 08/28/16 03:46 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
Dnj Offline
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Dan will have enough to get back to you soon on this as I need to look further into this thank you for the reply

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#425405 - 08/28/16 11:12 PM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Dan will have enough to get back to you soon on this as I need to look further into this thank you for the reply


Just liek i expected.. There is no product in the music world where you get this kind of service from the developers .... Isnt this great how Dann handles this with interest in your situation?
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#425410 - 08/29/16 04:43 AM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: Dnj]
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Thank you smile
vArranger is a great software, and I want to be sure that the musician will enjoy it. I have no interest in selling vArranger if it is not adapted to the need. As I am doing the after sales helping too, and the vArranger users community is growing, it is better to check things before the sales, and then sleep well smile
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#425411 - 08/29/16 05:17 AM Re: Best controller to use with vArranger2 & why? [Re: DAN.2000]
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I remember a situation about 4 or 5 years ago, when an absolute newbe by the name of Bernie, just couldn't seem to get going. Well, Dan connected remotely to my computer, and set it up for me.
Bernie
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