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#426017 - 09/10/16 10:59 PM Re: this week's radio broadcast [Re: cgiles]
Mark79100 Offline
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: cgiles
Originally Posted By: Mark79100

I notice people don't talk much here about actual "playing." Why is that?

I think most of the main posters here are older, self-taught keyboard players who came to "arranger playing" either from no formal musical background or training OR from another instrument (accordion, guitar, etc. - not classical piano or organ).


Chas........I just saw your reply here.

If I had to guess, I’d say THAT is the reason. And lack of formal training is probably also the reason most musicians I’ve ever interacted with on the outside (most!)……don’t discuss music.

I‘m recalling incidents in the past: the keyboard salesman at Sam Ash who played great left hand runs but wouldn’t show me what he was doing. The pro flute player who played great “runs” but when I asked he honestly admitted he couldn‘t repeat what he played because he “didn’t know what he was doing." The many Youtube videos I watch where I can see many were never taught “hand and finger positioning.” Musicians I know personally even, etc

And the other side of the coin is, established pro’s and those in the upper echelon of playing are too busy making great music to talk about it.

So after all these years your simple explanation, if correct, solves a riddle that I’ve wondered about for the longest time.

In the end, that doesn’t make anyone good or bad, pro or amateur, a good or bad player, qualified or unqualified for the job. It simply means they are self-taught. No stigma to that.

A little secret here…..myself, I’m self-taught on piano and arranger. Could never find a teacher who actually knew how to communicate keyboard principles for an advanced accordion player. But I was lucky enough to have a series of good teachers on the accordion when I was a kid.

Personally I find most players who exhibit creativity are those who started by themselves and continued on their own. I’ll never forget Bob. We both played the accordion back in high school days. Boy would he tick me off. I’d be home practicing scales every day and he was self-taught so he’d be practicing great arrangements. He’d better me any day of the week and twice on Sunday!!!

Originally Posted By: cgiles
Keep posting though Mark, some random visitor under 30 might drop in smile.


No, I'll think I'll call it quits and just go with the flow.....instrument and speaker talk....and watching Donny's video posts.

Mark

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#426025 - 09/11/16 02:45 AM Re: this week's radio broadcast [Re: Mark79100]
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5410
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Originally Posted By: Mark79100
So I'll ask the question again.......I notice people don't talk much here about actual "playing." Why is that?


Synthzone is more geared towards pro players, so it is assumed that they already know how to play, hence you get less posts on playing skills, it’s as simple as that.

If you go to the more home focussed forums (The arranger was always designed for the home hobby player) you will find plenty on playing technique. (There are also plenty of books and videos on the subject)

Hope this helps

Bill
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