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#42819 - 03/07/05 01:45 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
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Loc: Lyngdal in Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
I can't imagine what a mp3 file should do on a gig. Is it karaoke you're performing? On a gig you're far more free to add a refrain or whatever you like by live playing if the public are in good mood and want you to. By use of sequensed songs, midis or mp3 you're totally forced to follow the playback all the time. GJ


Well for me using mp3s was a success from first time. Now and then I use the mp3s as full playback and add my own playing on top. This is not an "overkill" if you know what you are doing. The audience really seems to love it. Now we are really talking about "one-man-band" I see that I can't add a refrain or wathever, but in cases I dont see any reason to why I should add anything. I play the song how it is original and that's it. If the song is a sucsess I just play it once more (later in the evening) and this works really nice.

Well, this is just my experience. I do not force anyone to perform like me

Kenneth - www.KN7000.net

Edit: Misspelled "success"

[This message has been edited by Kenneth Gundersen (edited 03-07-2005).]

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#42820 - 03/07/05 02:15 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4381
Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Johnnie.c:
....and I am sure there are plenty of Roland owners that would be only too pleased to join in.


Yes, I can sure see your point Johnnie.c, not much discussions going
on at the Roland forums. Maybe that will be better now when Technics
don't follow up the KN7000?

Personally I'm a kind of eager to see how the G70 and other kb's are
being judged by KN users, also compared to those who are users of the
Tyros or other brands and of course also versus KN7000, so why not on
this forum?

KN7000 will probably stand against most competitions still, but we'll
never know when / where or what will be the next BIG ONE, and not to
forget what will replace or be added to my "dear old mistress" KN5k.

Oh well, at the end it's only the personal taste who matters, and I
really hope that Yamaha get more competition elsewhere to keep up the
alternatives to choose by.
No matter how good or bad the Tyros2 will be. Monopoly is not a good
thing, and it really looks like Yamaha are on the way to achieve it
when quite a lot of players run for it as we can see at Gen Arr Forum.

Ops...got it even more offtopic now, didn't I?

GJ
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#42821 - 03/07/05 02:50 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Peter Lowden Offline
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
Hi Gunnar,

I think you've got it absolutely right.

What better way to learn and find out about our future choice of instrument/s than this Technics Forum. Better to get an unbiased view from someone we know and who's judgement we trust.

It's far better surely for members to view their pro's and con's about new keybaords on this forum. Were there to be a KN8000 then perhaps things would be viewed differently but that's not the case.

I don't feel anyway that it's completely off topic if you are comparing other keyboards whilst using Technics as a sort of bench mark.

Kind regards

Peter

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#42822 - 03/07/05 04:41 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4381
Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Kenneth Gundersen:
..... I dont see any reason to why I should add anything. I play the song how it is original and that's it...



I asume our experiences are different, and maybe it's different how it
works in different places where "gigging".

If you play for a public sitting just to listen and look at you, I can
see that there is no need to add or do any funny things, but when gig
for i.e. a Saturday Night Dance or a Wedding, I can't imagine doing it
without the freedom to stop, start, add, joke and have fun as you can
do when perform live playing.
The audience usually love it very much, and you know, when people sing
along and having big time, do not stop to give them any excuse to back
off of the dancefloor and sit down.

Midifiles and mp3's as "The Band" are used quite a lot lately, and I've
been guest at places where every single song was playback.
I have even asked the musicians why not come on and join the rest of the
party, the music plays just fine as it is. No need to be a "book end" for
the keyboard or/and the minidisk who are preset to play non stop anyway.
(Yeah, I know, I'm a bad, bad guy. )

Of course, this is only my personal view and observations. Each one most
do what they find suitable and what they feel is right, after all this
is great technical features who are added to the kb's, and probably it's
made to be used as well.
Wow, got a idea! Kenneth, send your repertoire to me, and I'm going out
to gig again and collect the big money.
Pssst... I won't tell anybody that is you who are inside the KN.

GJ

And yet again, looks like Tony's tread are twisted even more off of the
original topic, or more correct, hijacked by me.....
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#42823 - 03/07/05 06:00 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Loc: Norway
Found the link for manuals & refguide G70 at GenArr:
http://www.rolandkeyboardclub.com/v/om.php?pagina=4&lang=en

Might be interesting reading even if we don't have
any G70.
Rightclick and "save as" when found the one you desire.

GJ
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#42824 - 03/07/05 11:09 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Anonymous
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Hi Gunnar,

How right you are about this thread. 5 to 10 years from now will we still own a Technics? I like to be aware of what is available.

The G70 styles are pretty darn good.

Fran in Florida

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#42825 - 03/07/05 12:48 PM Re: G70 Arrived But
Peter Lowden Offline
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Found the link for manuals & refguide G70 at GenArr:
http://www.rolandkeyboardclub.com/v/om.php?pagina=4&lang=en

Might be interesting reading even if we don't have
any G70.
Rightclick and "save as" when found the one you desire.

GJ


Just a quick thankyou for the above links Gunnar

Many thanks

Peter

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#42826 - 03/07/05 01:37 PM Re: G70 Arrived But
tony harbour Offline
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Registered: 12/22/99
Posts: 132
Loc: wilts,england
Dear All

Wow what a response , i have read replies and feel i had better follow up - the reason i bought the G70 was because i always buy a new keyboard every 3 years or so - i usually wait 'til guarantee runs out - my excuse for raiding my bank account ! - What i was after was a 76 note keyboard with good piano as no 1 on my list . Regarding sounds the KN7000 is very very good - i'm NOT knocking it - i had mine for several years no problem - the reason i posted here is as Peter says there might be others looking to exchange - of course your ears might be different to mine so take anything i say with a pinch of salt ! Also no 1 i should say i am a home user - i do not gig - and don't mind creating my own registrations - i'm never happy with one touch settings - that goes for any keyboard - settings always require changing . Also no 2 the piano sounds on the Technics are probably atleast as good for playing with styles ( i however prefer roland for solo playing ). NB: Eventhough i have the Roland keyboard this forum is my favourite - the threads contain all manner of topics that interest me , there are a lot of clued up members here so i will continue to use this forum (assuming you'll allow me to !)


[This message has been edited by tony harbour (edited 03-07-2005).]
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#42827 - 03/08/05 01:57 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Peter Lowden Offline
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
Hi Tony,

Whilst deciding to buy the Roland G70 did you also try the Korg PA1X or Tyros? and if so, what made you decide on the G70? Was it because the G70 is very much like the Technics?

How much did you pay for the G70?

Thanks for providing all the info, much appreciated, take no notice of the member who earlier in this thread requested you go elsewhere, it's totally uncalled for and tactless. Comments like that spoil the good will of the forum.

Kind regards

Peter

[This message has been edited by Peter Lowden (edited 03-08-2005).]

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#42828 - 03/08/05 06:29 AM Re: G70 Arrived But
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4381
Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Peter Lowden:
....take no notice of the member who earlier in this thread requested you go elsewhere, it's totally uncalled for and tactless. Comments like that spoil the good will of the forum.


Well, to keep the discussions in the forums where it's ment to be regarding to
what brand, maybe that is the idea about the whole structure of the forums here
at SZ.
I don't think Johnnie.c "spoil the good will" of the forum by say what he mean,
so do I and some others. Maybe comments like yours now Peter, do a far better
work regarding to "spoil the good will", and also are "totally uncalled for and
tactless" ?

Personally I don't have any problem to see that no more new Technics might make
this more like the General Arranger Forum for each one of us who add or buy a
new keyboard of another brand, and maybe that's what Johnnie.c post is about?
(You know, those of us who lost a great Technics Forum earlier, probably dislike
to see that it should happen to this forum as well.)

Anyway, myself I have nothing against mixing up a bit and even twist a topic now
and then, it's a kind of natural, just as "normal" conversations use to be.

To make a comparison like Tony does here I think many of us like both to see and
participate within, but if or when we start post clean topics about other brands,
I think we should do it on the dedicated forums.
Looking into the links in Johnnie.s's post, the Roland forum is not much used....
and strictly between us, I think the Genral Arranger forum has gone a bit too
Yamaha'ish.

At the end I think we should keep in mind that the only one who deside and tell
us who to go elsewhere or not is Nigel, who do a really GREAT work hosting and
administrate the SynthZone Forums.

Happy posting & playing.
GJ
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