Hi Folks.
Can anyone confirm the US connection on the KN7000, I am talking the physical connection not the 240v UK to 120v US.

I was told that a KN7000 mains lead, the plug that connects power to the
KN7000 was available in the US. Is this correct?
I am talking about the Shape of the plug
That fits into the KN7000 socket.
In the UK the connection is a standard figure of eight shape, is this different
to the US connection?
Kind regards.
Joe

Hi there - its worth mentioning that the UK mains-out lead (figure of eight shape) is the same type of lead that you would use on a portable radio i.e. nothing particularly sophisticated about it........Joan

Joan is correct when she says the mains lead is standard as I found out recently (to my delight).

I was setting up at a 'gig' and found to my horror the mains lead was missing. What could I do? Despite the sophistication of the KN7 or indeed and any other electrical product they are all absolutely useless without a mains lead. Luckily for me, a resident loaned me his Hi Fi mains lead and it worked perfectly.

However, I now keep an additional mains lead in the car -just in case.....

"live and learn" as the saying goes!

Aud (U.K.)

Joan and Audrey -

You CLEARLY have misunderstood Joe. NO WAY is the connection from the KN7000 out the same as keyboards designed for the US. Trust me for Joe is inquiring for me. I have a KN6500 (US model) and the power cord will NOT go in the KN7000 I now own that is designed for the UK. We are talking apples and oranges. You BOTH are in the UK and do not understand the AC power of North America.

Well nsr007 - You have also CLEARLY misunderstood my clarification of the UK lead!

Nowhere did I suggest that this UK lead would connect to a KN7 manufactured for the US market OR that an US lead would connect to a UK KN7.

I don't have to understand the AC power of North America to do this - HAVE A NICE DAY!!!..........Joan



[This message has been edited by Joan (edited 10-24-2005).]

Joan, dear -

You were confirming to Joe what he already knew since he is in the UK. He was speaking of US connection. One must read carefully what another posts. You have a nice day.

Joe, the end of the cord that fits into the KN7K is 8 shaped, however one end is rounded and the other is flat. Would this be the same as the UK?

by Bud Whipple:
Joe, the end of the cord that fits into the KN7K is 8 shaped, one end is rounded and the other is flat. Would this be the same as the UK?

Hi Bud
so nice to hear from you again!!
The UK is a figure of eight shape, But it is round on all edges.Anyone got a file??
just kidding!!
Thanks for the info.kind regards.
Joe.

nsr007 DEAR ( Drop the sarcasm and prickly attitude please ) You have asked others to carefully read the post but you didn't obviously didn't understand Joan's reply which pointed out it that it is a STANDARD power cable in the UK ie. one could assume that if they used a STANDARD cable in the UK then they probably followed a similar approach in the US. Did you know that already because the original question doesn't make mention of it which is why Joan and Audrey mentioned it. If you did maybe YOU should have posted the original question yourself instead of through Joe.

Besides YOU are the one that has both a UK and US Technics keyboard in front of you so you know exactly what sort of plug is required because you have already tried to plug one in, so what are you confused about anyway? Visit a local electronics store and see for yourself whether it is available or not. Else just simply modify the UK power cable you have. Of course if the Technics doesn't have a 120/240 voltage switch ( I don't know details of the model ) then just forget about it and would explain why they made sockets that you can't accidentally plug the wrong power chord into.


[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 10-29-2005).]

And I thought they were talking about the USB port on the 7K!!!!

When you mean USA....say so?

When you mean UK....say so?

When you mean USB...say so!

Nigel,

I couldn't be more surprised at your catty attitude as an administrator of this forum. It is beneath you or should be to start your reply as, "nsr007DEAR." My response to Joan's post in using CLEARLY was not meant showing "prickly" attitude. It was used to emphasize on reading Joe's question again and understanding what he asked. Joan, on the other hand, got testy and sensitive and told me, "Have a nice day." We know how she meant it. What baffles me is that you or Joan can't comprehend what Joe stated. Here it is, "Can anyone confirm the US connection on the KN7000, I am talking the physical connection not the 240v UK to 120v US." He said, US CONNECTION. Joan stating that the UK lead is the same as used on a portable radio - WELL, GEE! Now, if you or Joan can't see a problem with this as an answer, then move on.

etwo4788 - I suggest you also reread Joe's question. When one speaks of AC power it certainly isn't referring to a USB connection.



[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 10-29-2005).]

If the tone of your postings was misunderstood by us all I really do apologize. You must understand though that the capitalizing of certain words in your first posting came across as being rude which is why you got the responses you did.

By the way I don't allow personal attacks on other members ( other than those directed at me I can take criticism without taking offense ) which is why I edited your posting. This is a privately owned forum and I reserve the right to do that. It was either that or remove the entire thread which I don't like to do. Let the matter drop now as it must have been due to misinterpretation.

Getting back to the whole point of this thread. You didn't answer me to whether or not the KN7000 has a 120/240 volt switch to allow changing between different power supplies. I'm guessing it must or this thread wouldn't make any sense at all. And if it does then even if you weren't able to find a US cable with the right plugs then modifying the UK cable would be trivial.




[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 10-29-2005).]

My post was intended to insert a bit of humor into the conversation.

Yes it definately needs to lighten up

Dear Nigel, Joan, et al -

OOPS! I shouldn't have used, DEAR. A little light humor, if I may. I'm sorry that many were and are confused by Joe's posting. The gentleman was trying to find out if there was a difference in the main lead connection at the instrument on a US version KN7000 than on a UK. He went on to say that he was told that you could buy a main lead in the US since he was talking about a UK connection. This got started because I am the one that bought one of his KN7000s and Joe didn't send the main lead with the keyboard. Let me clear up this terminology of "main lead" Apparently, you in the UK and I suppose Europe call it this. In America, (US) we call it a power cord. Joe was trying to find out if someone in the US sold this type of cord so he wouldn't have to send the one he didn't include with the instrument. I tried to get one and no one in the US would have reason to carry a cord such as this. They would have no reason to stalk such an item because our AC is different and above all, the connections are quite different. Joe has told me that he sent the cord. I am still waiting for it but I should be getting it hopefully, soon. I also have a US KN6500 and trust me when I say that the power cord of the KN6500 will not go in the UK KN7000. The male leads coming out of the UK KN7000 are bigger around and further apart than the ones in the KN6500. I am almost certain that my KN6500 cord would fit a US KN7000. As most know, there is little difference between the two boards. Now, with all this, can we blow kisses to each other and make up? A little more humor.

One more thing.

Nigel, there is no power switch on these keyboards. They haven't used them in years. I only wish they still did. I was told by a Panasonic representative that it would have cost the company $2.00 more (what is this about 1 GBP?) to install this on the keyboards. Talk about penny pinching! It also could be a safety measure. I will be posting the latest of what was told to me by this Panasonic representative about the demise of the Technics keyboards a bit later, if I have a stay of execution and permitted to post. Dare I put another emoticon!

No problem. It is easy for the written word to be read differently than it was really intended.

OK now your last posting tells us exactly what is going on and why the original question was asked. Because of the AC differences in different regions power cables are usually specially made not to fit at both ends to avoid dangerous mistakes ( unless the onboard power supply is switchable between the voltage settings ). And because of this you definately would not be able to easily buy a cable for a UK keyboard in the US unless you found a specialty electronics store that carried plugs, cables and sockets for different countries. Getting Joe to send it to you is the best thing.

So it sounds like you intend to run it into a 120-240 volt transformer here in the US. At least you know now from Joan's posting if you ever lost your power cord you could order a standard one from a UK electronics store online.

And I really look forward to hearing from you about what the Panasonic rep told you about stopping the Technics keyboard product line.


[This message has been edited by Nigel (edited 10-29-2005).]

That's strange that they stopped doing it. It is more cost effective usually for companies to make a single product that they can sell worldwide rather than manufacturing, shipping and selling separate versions. For this reason a lot of electronic products nowadays can run 120/240 volt at 50~60 hz.

I am not going to get involved in this 'disagreement' but I would like to suggest that nsr007 contacts the following company:-

TECHNOTE AMERICA Inc.
5324 56th Commerce Park Blvd
Tampa
Florida
34691
USA
Telephone no. 1-800 580 4050
email: usa@technote.com

I have dealt with the English Technote company almost since they started business and have always found the staff to be courteous and helpful. If the USA staff are the same (and I'm sure they are) they will do their utmost to help you.

Worth a try anyway.

Good luck!

Aud (U.K.)

Thank you, Nigel and also Audrey.

What my true desire is that once I get the power cord to the keyboard is to have someone convert it to a 120V. Before I bought this keyboard from Joe, I was told by a gentleman that works on electronics that he saw no reason why he couldn't find the correct wires in the power system and make the change. He gave me the go ahead to buy the keyboard. I didn't go into buying this without a clear head. I have and am still considering a power converted amp but I am hoping I don't have to go this route. They weigh anywhere from 6 - 15 pounds and I don't want this oversize wart staring at me next to my keyboard or worse yet, have to carry this damn thing on a gig. Joe has been wonderful and has tried to help me on my dilemma and I am grateful to him. At the present time, I have no answers because I have no power cord to make any decision. Once I get the cord I'll know better how I stand. I think the fuses in the power supply will also have to be changed.

The concern of all of us getting parts down the line is something to be taken seriously but I have checked out Panasonic's website and they have a great deal of parts listed for the KN7000 that are supposed to be available. They list price and online ordering. How long all these parts are going to be available is a good question. Example: I looked up a power transformer unit for the US model. It was $58. and change. My electronics guy told me that the worse case scenario would be that I would have to replace this if he couldn't do the wire change. Let's just say that this has been quite an experience. I don't regret it because Joe has been an excellent gentleman to do business with. One more point of interest, Panasonic is still referring service to their authorize service centers.

Give me a bit of time and I will comment on what the Panasonic representative had to say. You all might find it interesting what he said when he finally confided in me due to our good rapport.

Thanks, Audrey. I will contact Technote if I don't get satisfaction from the repair guy I am planning on using.

Joe,

You gotta gig in America.
Kept that quiet.
Best of luck.

Barry

When you mean USA....say so?
When you mean UK....say so?


Hi etwo.
To be fair in the uk we say US, meaning,United States! to be factfull the term USA is wrong "United States America"
when you say US of A it makes sense.
Kind Regards.
Joe




[This message has been edited by Joe Baron (edited 10-30-2005).]

Hi Folks.
Be assured the lead was posted a week ago today, The ordinary post seems pretty slow.
If it wasn't so slow most of the comments posted would not have been "posted"

lets be friends all round, I have recently found out the saying life is short is "OH" so true.
Regards Joe.

Everything is completely fine, it was just a misunderstanding. I just hope nsr007 gets to enjoy using your KN7000 very soon. It sounds like he intends to give it a good home here in the US.

Hi Joe and everyone,

The lead arrived. Yippee!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't be more surprised at the size of the cord. I thought this would be so much bigger than the US model. I am talking about the size of the cord and not the connection. It actually looks smaller in diameter than the US ones. I know little about electric current but here in the US, a 220V kitchen stove cord is HUGE. Anyway, now that I have the cord I still have to get the unit converted. I'll keep you posted for those that dare venture into doing this conversion in the future. I suggest you don't.