Well this morning I was seriously thinking about it....
we'll see what happens...

Donny...Please don't even go there. You know deep down inside you'll be back to the 970. The guitar's...the overall sound and familiarity with the Yami OS should keep you satisfied. Besides, you were laughing at the guy who wanted another arranger yesterday.

Don/Gary: Please intervene...it may be time for an intervention!

He who dies with the most arrangers wins.

Wasn't Donny that just posted that "it's the player - not the keyboard" I believe Donny has developed another case of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) and is felling the pangs of not performing on a daily basis anymore.

Get over it, Donny. You really don't need another arranger keyboard - you already own one of the best - just learn how to use all the onboard features and you will quickly discover that there is nothing that your S-970 cannot do. All it requires is some creative investigating and a bit of ingenuity. If you need to piss some money away, put it into a retirement account - YOU WILL BE GETTING OLD ONE DAY! (I know about this stuff first hand.)

Gary

It's better if you go for ea7 than bk9. Only good thing about bk9 is the keys.

Go for it Donnie.........It will be a new experience and will stimulate the Mind..... There is nothing wrong with trying new systems....... Just be sure to tell us of the experience.......

Good Job "DNJ"

Thanx everyone for your concern....I have some new home projects in the works coming up and sometimes new gear is required...

There is a certain time we come to in our lives when it is more about what we want than what we need ...
Donny, if you want it,go for it ... who knows if tomorrow will even get here ...

PA 4X?

Join the club?

I already had a Pa4x ...great kb.

Didn't like it?

Donny has dated many Korg's over the years. But, when it comes to arrangers...He's a one woman man...Yammie!

That time for me was at birth....and has persisted to this day .

chas

Way to go, chas ... ...

BK9 has good keys, 76 of them. It is light, but sort of long.
Has great sounds and styles. I liked it a lot but sent it back because I liked the Korg better.
There are no bad choices!

[]It's better if you go for ea7 than bk9. Only good thing about bk9 is the keys


Are you really serious ?

Donny
Don't give up on what you know so well and have,been happy with. Look around and get your hands on a BK-9 to investigate .Then if you love it get rid of the Yamika or keep it for a,backup.
The
BK-9 has a lot more going for,it then the keybed, that's why I have,two. Wish I was,closer to lend you one.

I think he just throws these posts out there to stir up the pot, and sit back and watch all the comments.

Bill.Thanx for the offer....I can understand why you have two units.....

I get the feeling that this has nothing to do with keyboards. It’s more like what used to make me happy.

It is a new time and there are many other areas that can fill your need. This does not stop Donny and music, they are one and not to be separated.

John C.
PS, Donny, thank you for sharing your feelings. John C.

Coming from a "PSR-DuJour", the keys will be an improvement ... well, maybe not the cheap Casio arrangers.

Thanx everyone the S970 is no longer available at this time ...

Donny: Does that mean your sticking with it...or did you swap it out?

I still have the S970 at this time for now.

Smart decision!

Gary

I did say for now ....

No comparison.....BK9 is twice the board of the 970...The advantage Donny knows the Yamaha, and fits his comfort zone....
6 months with a Roland will change all that

A side note...
If a player takes the time to learn and understand the EA7...it will out perform any Yamaha or Korg in common areas.. namely style composing, sampling, pads and phrase recording, media playback, SMF and style edits,.... and will run with the Korg in tone edits and drum edits..

I found the EA7 to be a surprising...bang for the dollar , and deep as you can get in functions...

Keep your eye out for the BK9 replacement....coming soon with EA goodies..

BTW: Do you know the EA7 world wide is the best selling arranger keyboard, just ahead of the Korg PA300.

Fran lots of great info.... I'm glad
Roland is still in the game....looking forward to what's next from them soon.

Fran, it's the player that must perform - not the keyboard. This has been demonstrated so many times, here and on other forums. The keyboard does not perform, or outperform, anything - it does NOT perform. Only the performer performs. He or she is the entertainer - not the keyboard. Donny is a good entertainer, you know that and so do I. UD and Don Mason are good entertainers, the keyboard is nothing more than a sound machine. It the entertainer that makes it all come together - not the keyboard.

It's 5 O'clock somewhere!

Gary

Gary, you missed the focus...The keyboard will out perform in features I mentioned.. Take sampling... Try sampling on the PA4x and EA7...and tell me which one does the better job .... easiest..

EA7 uses 6 pads at one time..Korg and Yamaha , only 4..out perform again etc..

And, do you really think all that amounts to anything when the person on stage cannot perform? C'mon Fran, most OMB entertainers rarely use pads, and when they do they usually use one or two at most.

Samplimg - shampling! Doesn't amount to a hill of beans to the audiences. Keep in mind that that you used the G-800 and G-70 very successfully for decades and I seriously doubt that YOUR audiences noticed any difference between the two keyboards when you updated.

Our audiences just wish to be entertained, mostly by a good SINGER. Those attractive gals and a young guy that were in front of you on stage were the primary reason those audiences were there - NOT to see and hear Fran play the keyboard. Those ladies and that guy did a great job singing those songs, while Fran tickled the keys along with a lot of SMF files behind them.

Donny, UD and DomM all have a great entertainment skills and vocal skills, which is why their audiences are there night after night. As I have said in the past, the best attribute of an arranger keyboard is the vocal processor. As you have heard, at least I hope you listened, to an incredible performance a few days ago by one of our members using nothing more than a relatively low end PSR-S750. Now, just imagine that song with some incredible vocals.

As DNJ usually says, NUFF SAID!

Gary

Gary, this topic has nothing to do with the player...it is about the hardware/software difference...Doesn't matter if you use it , I use it, UD or Donny... the physical capabilities of the keyboard do not change...

Maybe features you won't use.. like sampling, BTW: one of the main reasons the EA7 is the current best seller worldwide....

Again, I am not talking about players... only comparing the keyboard features I mentioned..

Notlos does a great job... the key to a great sounding piano is chord voicing..

Here is another example of a keyboard under $1,000 with a great piano sound..

duplicate

Very nice, the BK5 sounds amazing!!
...that said couldn't this guy use a KB stand? looks awkward sitting on an ottoman while playing

That is the BK5

You need to watch more middle eastern and asian keyboard video's they all sit in the strangest positions behind their keyboards.. (at least, strange to us Western people)

Fran, I absolutely understand what you are talking about, but the topic was about whether or not Donny should swap keyboards. IMO, from his past history, no, it makes no sense at all. Yes, you use those features, and so do I, but 99 percent of the players will never use them, and some never open the instruction manual to determine what features are available.

Gary

When I first saw this clip years ago.. I went out and bought an ottoman to use with my BK5

And did it help?



chas

No... then I thought about renting the guys apartment..

Sooooooo, lemme get this straight. You LIKE Rolland products, Fran?

Judging by that apartment, I'm betting he has a Steinway D off camera in the corner (and bought that BK5 for his 2 yr old).



chas

I just would like to to reiterate if I may......,
The "original topic" was simply just a Trade offer to members nothing more,.....how it got to where it is is beyond me?....

Thank you

Seems like the Roland cloud is named after Fran, because Roland seems to cloud his mind..

But then, as long as someone is happy with what he has got, i guess its okay to be a fanboy.

Roland sure has been developing some great products at a great price lately. But then closing ones eyes for other brands like Yamaha, Korg, Nord and others might not be the wisest thing to do..

Bachus, you have it wrong..

No one and I mean no one has owned more keyboards and rack gear than I have..

Thru the 80's I have owned most of Yamaha line, Korg line, Sequential Circuits, Oberheim, Digital keyboard, Siel, Crumar, Farfisa, Casio, Solton and others...

Since 82 I have owned just about every Roland keyboard and rack models..

I have formed my opinions via real time comparisons..
There are many Roland models I disliked over the years...like JX1, Juno1 and 2, Juno G's , D10 and 20 and others..
Some early E series arrangers did not fancy me..

I have played Nord models, they are not bad.. over priced, and I always found a better keyboard instead..

Yamaha Tyros .. way over priced and has overall sound I don't care for.. PSR.. No thanks..

Korg PA 1x, 2x, 3x, and 4x.. are fine.. PA4x and Ketron SD7, may be the best in this price range.. current models..

Back in the 80's.. the rack stuff ruled Roland MKS series, Yamaha TX, and Korg models too..

Sleeper models from that era...Siel DK600, Roland JX10, Sequential Prophet 600..

I think you can see I am open minded to all brands.. If they are the real deal... I give credit to them..

I am a GM car/truck fan, but have owned many Fords, Plymouths, Mercury, etc.... never an import.. Caddy and Buick for the most part.. Almost the same as my instrument interest.

Fran lets not forget to mention you had your own Music Store and were a dealer for years also ....just sayin'

sigh ...

I guess old habits are hard to break!

Gary

Fran,

Have you had experience with the Ketron SD7?

Tx

Fran never owned a SD7 but I did..he was with me a while back when we went to DE to the SD7 workshop with AJ and had a great time....do a search on SZ on the SD7 and you will read all about it and many many reviews on the SD7...good luck..