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#432091 - 05/22/17 11:17 AM PA 4X. Editing Sounds
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I've just started to dig a bit deeper into the amazing sound editing capabilities of my 4X.

To start with, I've been watching the 4X tutorials again by Steve McNally. Also I've been reading the manual.

Page 369, in the manual, starts the in depth description of the editing capabilities.

Anybody spent any time with this info? Thoughts?

I actually enjoy some of the more techie stuff but I will say this info pushes my brain. I wish I could find a video or a workshop that goes more in depth on this. Without a better understanding, I'm not sure I will be able to take advantage of all the great editing features.

Thoughts?
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#432140 - 05/22/17 11:23 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: guitpic1]
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To start with stick to the main edditing page..

Use your envelope generator (ADR) Fulter (Cutoff/resonance) and your LFO (Setting the vibrato)
Find out what each part does..
You can addapt every sound to your taste just using this page

Only dive deeper, if you want to create a totally new sound
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#432159 - 05/23/17 10:37 AM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Bachus]
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Tx Bachus.

I'm hoping to modify a sound or create a totally new sound. I'd love to figure out how to get a Hawiaain Stella guitar voice as my S970 has?
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#432167 - 05/23/17 01:06 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Tx Bachus.

I'm hoping to modify a sound or create a totally new sound. I'd love to figure out how to get a Hawiaain Stella guitar voice as my S970 has?




Why not sample the sound from your Yamaha on your Korg..
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#432169 - 05/23/17 03:57 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Originally Posted By guitpic1
Tx Bachus.

I'm hoping to modify a sound or create a totally new sound. I'd love to figure out how to get a Hawiaain Stella guitar voice as my S970 has?




Why not sample the sound from your Yamaha on your Korg..


How is this done? Great idea if it works.
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#432175 - 05/23/17 05:51 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: guitpic1]
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My Roland EA7, I record direct into the keyboard...usually sample C3, C4, C5 and C6, I save the samples and open multi sample, edit mode...placing the four samples in their proper range...save the Multi sample , and make a user tone from the sample..
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#432176 - 05/23/17 05:53 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
My Roland EA7, I record direct into the keyboard...usually sample C3, C4, C5 and C6, I save the samples and open multi sample, edit mode...placing the four samples in their proper range...save the Multi sample , and make a user tone from the sample..


That sounds so easy Fran good to know

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#432186 - 05/23/17 10:32 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Fran Carango]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
My Roland EA7, I record direct into the keyboard...usually sample C3, C4, C5 and C6, I save the samples and open multi sample, edit mode...placing the four samples in their proper range...save the Multi sample , and make a user tone from the sample..


That sounds so easy... except all great tones on the yamaha are multi layered samples... if yoi want true expressiveness in your tones it will require a few more samples...

If you want to do this make sure to use a midi file, that plays the Yamaha tones at exactly the right velocity.. (to find out at which vellocity which sound samples are played use the YEM editor of your Yamaha to find out)
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#432188 - 05/23/17 10:48 PM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Bachus]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
My Roland EA7, I record direct into the keyboard...usually sample C3, C4, C5 and C6, I save the samples and open multi sample, edit mode...placing the four samples in their proper range...save the Multi sample , and make a user tone from the sample..


That sounds so easy... except all great tones on the yamaha are multi layered samples... if yoi want true expressiveness in your tones it will require a few more samples...




If you want to do this make sure to use a midi file, that plays the Yamaha tones at exactly the right velocity.. (to find out at which vellocity which sound samples are played use the YEM editor of your Yamaha to find out)




True..... most keyboard sounds are 2 or 3 velocity layered samples.... still not complicated, but time consuming..

No one will receive the level of sampling done in the recording studios of major manufacturers..
Consumer sampling is to capture the essence of the sound you want.



Edited by Fran Carango (05/23/17 10:52 PM)
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#432193 - 05/24/17 05:14 AM Re: PA 4X. Editing Sounds [Re: Fran Carango]
guitpic1 Offline
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Tx guys
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