All that editing/sequencing, etc, can be done inside your computer with a good DAW much more efficiently then on any kb,.. They need to just make a lightweight, great keybed 61,76,88, versions, giant tilt display, pro sequencer, knobs, sliders, drum pads, TC VH unit inside, small slim foot print, and leave the editing to software programs which also should be included in the box with full professional easy to follow Instructional Tutorials online on their website for all features,...

I still love that you can, anywhere you are, plug in your keyboard and build a song from scratch with an editable internal sequencer. It's you and your instrument. One on one.

Add a computer sequencer/DAW and the technology can get in the way. Drivers were updated... need to download. Take the hands off the keyboard to reach for the computer keyboard and mouse. I'm just more efficient on an internal sequencer.

Now... need to edit more? add FX? get your track punchy? Then you need to work in the DAW.

I'm only 43 BUT now I feel old because I have been sequencing inside the box since 1989. I am stubborn when it comes to efficiency with sequencing.

Set tempo... select first sound with no load time... hit record... play... count-in and go. Make a mistake... stop... dial wheel to the measure you can start at... rec and play and go. SO EASY!!!!

That's all well and good if you stuck in the old style editing ways but "on stage" in front of an audience is not the time to do editing ,.....when I'm performing my show go like a well oiled gear one song after the other, homework is done at home with a DAW IMO..building a song from scratch is a breeze that way in today's software.

Donny, I'd love to hear some of your 'builds'. Can you put up a couple on here? I wish I had the patience to get into all this stuff.

Too much work involed to just give it away publicly sorry.... It takes years to perfect the process...good luck

Sequencing can be done in a computer... however, if you add the tools for edditing and building sequences into the keyboard... and add an option to eddit on a big remote screen... the workflow can be much much more fluent as you develope in the keyboard, with the right engines for the right tools....

Sound edditing in all its depth should be available in the keyboard for real time tweaking (easy superficial interface) as well indepth (deep menu structure). This is what puts the pa4x way above the Tyros5 in my book..

In my world the perfect keyboard would work perfectly witouth ever using a computer.. (altough the option to add an external screen for edditing, as well as note readin, music and cheat sheets, would be a convenience). So you would have a keyboard, with a big screen instead of a musicsheetstand)

Everything integrated in the keyboard... top layer for easy access and edditing basics... and real time controll.... deep layers for those that want to dive really deep... and guess what, this is exactly what yamaha has done with the Montage.

I am with Johnathan..... My go to sequencer has always been on the keyboard.. My two best...The Roland G1000 and the G70..
I was disappointed when I got the BK5..no sequencer, and the same with the EA7..

Donny did you forget how the G1000 sequencer fixed your problem SMF's, when you had no other solution..

The G1000 had an easy fix that the G70 lacks..

One 0f the major advantages on the G70 sequencer, is an easy fix removing system exclusive info in micro edit... allowing other keyboards to be able to play the file..

Very few people even try to learn the on board sequencer... they are looking for an easy out on a PC.... there is none... The on board sequencer was designed to be more efficient with work flow..

Everyone has their way of doing things, ....if it works for someone fine so be it,....I personally can do it both ways but feel more efficient doing my musical work on the computer using a DAW.

But if I had to choose doning it on a Kb it wold be No Contest!
The Roland Fantom G series hands-down!

Donny, most of your work is adding vocal tracks to an audio track... The PC namely MixCraft is perfect for this..

But what we are referring to is sequencing... midi data recording and editing..

Even the Fantom doesn't match the G70 for this...It is too time consuming.

Here is an example...On the G70 you can record a style play with muted tracks, as a midi capture.. send it to the on board sequencer, record any tracks over it you like, and edit anything you want.. Resave as a SMF.... Now try that on the fantom.. My example maybe takes 1/2 an hour.. tops.... Your Fantom, I'll check back with you tomorrow....and help you finish it.

Fran.....I also play & add many extra tracks to audio musically and vocally and cut, copy, paste edit FX also, I'm comfortable with that....it's a very involved process to get it the way you need for your arrangement. Let's face it today not many have a Roland G70 or would ever buy one if you could even find one in today's high tech KB world,....yes it has many great features but not many players would even consider it anymore. Your a Master G70 artist for sure,.....enjoy.