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#433547 - 06/29/17 08:13 AM
Midi Bass Pedals
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I am receiving Studiologic 13 bass pedals to day to use with my Nord Electro 61 in my band. I have a background with organ pedals, but I haven't had midi pedals since my 1985 Fatar. The only problem with the Nord is that it has but two channels, which means the pedals will be linked to the lower half of the split. By lowering the split point to C2, I can still play ensemble. Unfortunately, I don't play left hand bass.
However, If I used a separate module, I could regain my normal split. I only have an SD2 and SD4 that I use with my sequencer programs. I used to trigger sounds in my old keyboard, and even rhythm. My primary reason for pedals is for a fuller organ sound in a band with no bass player and just a piano to help with the bass.
I would appreciate any thoughts.
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#433551 - 06/29/17 08:22 AM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Actually, when I am playing organ style, my feet automatically go for the pedals. I was a B3 and church organist for years. Thanks for the good wishes though.
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#433558 - 06/29/17 12:30 PM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Thank you Bill.
I know that it sends and receives on ch 1-16. When it arrives I will be able to tell if I have to share the lower split.
Bernie
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#433561 - 06/29/17 02:56 PM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Actually, I am afraid that is the case in reading Nord forum posts. The splits will a handle only one channel at a time. I have a VB3 and B4 license and I may have to go that route. I remember looking at the vMachine but it was quite a bit of money if I recall. It sounds like you got a good deal.
More later---Ups truck at the door.
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#433563 - 06/29/17 03:06 PM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 12/17/12
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Bernie, You can still buy a brand new v-Machine for $149 USD. Free worldwide shipping. This is where I bought it a few years ago. https://gearstation.com.au/products/sm-v-machine-vst-hardware-player Yes, it used to be sold for $600. Good thing that I didn't pick it up at NAMM when they offered me a dicount. Since you have your VB3 license, all you have to do is enter your license as the plug-in is already loaded in the machine. I might add that you will see some vendors selling the vMachine combined with SM Pro Audio Classic Keys Collection fro $299. That is an excellent deal, too if you want the plug-ins. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8...Collection.htmlAfter I bought my v_Machine, I learned about the Keys Collection, but nobody carried it anymore until I saw a dealer in Oregon listing it on eBay. I jumped on it and bought it for around $120. The software itself is worth $500-600 I didn't care for other analog sounds, but I wanted Key Performer, GForce Virtual String Machine( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBTnyxmRzTk), and Lounge Lizzard Session(electric pianos). I run these apps in the v-Machines and my hybrid notebook.
Edited by Torch (06/29/17 03:22 PM)
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#433582 - 06/30/17 02:47 AM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Thanks to all. Maybe my long dormant pedaling skills can now be reactivated in many ways. I am looking to other sound sources now, and not be constricted to my old Nord Electro2. How exciting to have endless possibilities. I am hampered, however, by not having the grasp of midi control many of you have. For example, if I go to one of my other boards like the Pa4X, and set up an organ registration in drawbars, how do I direct the pedal board to a suitable bass sound?
I will just have to dig in and learn it. Game on!
Edited by Bernie9 (06/30/17 02:49 AM)
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#433586 - 06/30/17 04:56 AM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Thanks Bill and John. Through the years I have managed to pick up the rudiments of playing with midi modules and master keyboards. In the case of pedals to an arranger, I can't think how to direct a notes on message to a bass sound in the arranger. In other words channel three is routinely used for bass pedals. What do I set up in the arranger to correspond?
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#433590 - 06/30/17 06:43 AM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Okay John, in following your example, I have the pedals and midi out on ch 5. There is a pull down with choices. It works on Bass and Lower, both of which duplicates the Chord Bass of the left hand.
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#433591 - 06/30/17 07:34 AM
Re: Midi Bass Pedals
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I used Accordion 2 preset, ch 5, to Upper 2 voice. I then choose what bass and set volume. It seems to work as intended on the Pa4X. On to lighter organ solutions before I decide for band use. Maybe a Hammond with a third Pedal channel.
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