See, this is what happens when someone hijacks your post, especially when they clearly don't understand the gist of the post to begin with. Who gives a cr_p about whether you think a DJ or an Arranger player is a musician or not. Neither this post or the original one was ever about that. Both were about good musicians that don't fit the usual stereotype; a rock organist that doesn't LOOK like your typical rock organist; a nerdy-looking guy that plays exquisite avant-garde jazz piano ; a Japanese singer/pianist that does 'soul' music. Everyone else seems to have gotten that and made appropriate comments. Maybe reading and understanding a post before racing to respond to it would be helpful. Just sayin'.

chas

Not at all DNJ ! An arranger keyboard is actually a musical instrument !! What instrument does a DJ play ? If when you play an arranger keyboard , all you do is push buttons then I fully understand your confusion about what a musician is !! I have heard you play so I am surprised that you would even make the comparison .

But most arranger players actually know how to and actually play chords . Melodies , harmonies and chord progressions that they would do in a straight up keyboard . The arranger simply follows their piano playing . If you switch off the arranger element you can still hear the musician playing . If you switch off the record , backing track or MP3 file what music can you hear from a DJ ? A fist pump makes no sound !!

I think we can all agree that a DJ is NOT a musician. But...he IS an artist and you've got to respect that. Most of us, including myself, could not put those samples, and loops, and snippets together to make a piece an hour long that flows from one sound (and sound idea) to another. It's no different than what a producer does to produce a hit song or what a movie producer does. Puts it all together.

Mark I'm glad you "Get It"

Ummm, just what every budding musician aspires to, becoming a DJ. But the theme of this (and the original post) was LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with THIS debate. THIS went south after the HIJACK which is why hijacking a post is so annoying and why people should not support of contribute to the NEW narrative that the hijacker has created. If a post triggers a new thought, then start a new post. It's the respectful thing to do. Thankfully, most posters understand that.

chas

Chas hijacking is a way of life on forums mostly unintended, people are human with many thoughts,....believe me I have been victim of so called many, many, "HIJACKINGS" and in the words of my dear old SZ friend may he rest in peace Joe Ayalla "1,2,Cha Cha Cha"
now lets get back on topic........my apologies....

Here's another one which looks complete so deceiving. This group called me completely by surprise. They are doing one of my favourite songs by one of my favourite artists Mr Marvin Sapp and the song is called teach my hands to war .(praise is a weapon ).

It's done by the Indiana Bible college choir and they don't look anything like how they sound. Take a look https://youtu.be/uh8XaCVC56M

Spalding, they look and sound like ordinary, young people.

Gary

Folks playing that kind of music don't usually wear tuxedos , bow ties and floor length dresses with ornate prom styled hair do's . At least not in my church 😉