If anyone decided to throw a “boring competition” this player would win hands down. When I saw the video was 6 minutes I expected to hear some great improvising like I heard in the “Quizas, quizas, quizas video. All I heard was the same chordal riffs over and over again and too much with the “”stapping“ at the keyboard. There were no “fill’s” in the song even. After 3 minutes that style got on my nerves. The whole thing is a MIDI file if I’m correct.

His interpretation of the tune is way too busy. Most people know this song and they have a pretty good idea of the words. One of the best things I learned from another musician, many years ago, was “learn the words of a song first before you learn the song..” Reason being folks are remembering the words and reciting them in their minds. The words need to match the melody line of the song they’re listening to. The listener goes into temporary confusion if that is not happening. The professional way of doing songs like this is to play the melody straight the first time around so people get the feel of it and then go off into the world of improvisation. Not sure if I said that right but you get my drift.

The positive side of the video is……..that’s the kind of cha-cha style I’m looking for. Just not six minutes and 27 seconds of it without a break!

I don't admire any arranger player who doesn't use his "fill" options. That's what makes YOU own the song. How you manipulate the breaks. Almost anyone can play a tune fairly well if you get amnesia and forget there's a "fill" button there for a reason. The good players are the one who can work perfectly timed "fills" into what they're playing. Another way of saying: it's easy enough to play a tune if that's all you're thinking of (playing the tune). The players who rise to the top are the ones who are simultaneously thinking how to work the "fills" into what they're playing. That means "musical multi-tasking which ain't easy.

I'm fairly certain it's a Yamaha style. I have the same style that I purchased for my psr 950.

I'll agree,...what my pet peeves are is an arranger kb player who only uses Piano 99% of the time as his lead voice..
and has bad timing..

OK, so why did you post it, then?

Also, I was waiting for him to play, and or sing, Todo Todo Todo, which never happened. This would be a great song for an arranger keyboard.



Gary

Gary I posted it for discussion.....we can all learn good & bad technics by watching others...

Because he's....Donny. Does he need a reason? He has a posting addition and withdrawal would kill him .

chas

Tyros SWAY.........

And here is the way it should be played................

https://youtu.be/0ZECRi91s5A?t=247

Jerryghr

Absolutely!

Peter is just awesome......

Latin Music is on the rise worldwide embrace it....

http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/434320/DESPASITO_covers_so_nice...#Post434320

Gary.....I believe this is the Daniela Romo popular version most often used. I played it all the time when I was doing DJ work. It's an incredible song. I never got tired of hearing it. A lot of the ballroom dance clubs use this song.

Doesn't anyone improvise anymore?

Jerry, Gary and Donnie....I disagree and since I live in a democracy I have the right to disagree.

Now I don't listen to a lot of Peter Bartmann, but his sax solo at 12:03 put me off. No sax player worth his weight would present that as part of In The Mood.....unless you're showing off.

There was a post just a few days ago about playing an instrument just the way the instrumentalist would be playing it. I listen to a lot of big band from the 20's and 30's. Those horn players back then actually played their solo's melodically. They "breathed" between riffs. Peter is just throwing out notes...like an empty 3-piece suit. He's becoming a caricature of himself.

I won't deny he's a fantastic player, but to put over a song you have to be more than "fantastic." You have to look at the song as a whole, and dream up an arrangement and not just throw out notes that fly faster than the space shuttle.

Here's something I used to do but I never see anyone else do when they're demo-ing. Take the song Alexander's Ragtime Band (or any song with a chord that runs for long measures). Set up the keyboard zones to play a trumpet patch and a trombone patch. Then play trumpet melody on the right hand and trombone at the same time with the left hand. But always hang on to the last note of the trumpet phrase before you start the trombone riff at the same time. This way it doesn't sound like you're just changing patches but two actual instruments playing on top of and in-between each other.

Other things I would do would play a fill for maybe 8-16 measures with only a few notes here and there to supplement it. Another idea.......in the middle of a song, stop the rhythm completely and just play. Then cleverly bring the rhythm back in.

To me, real musicians are those who know how to "package" a song. People who just throw out notes to show how fast they can play don't do anything for me. I'm into melody. Anything short of that doesn't interest me.

This is the way horns should be played. I've haven't heard a one man band yet who can play like this. Most of them are just vagabond players who play at the speed of light and nothing else.

We've really been conditioned to accept a different breed of players nowadays......both bland and boring!

I always say "If someone is looking for something to complain about,................. They'll find it."

The discussion was about the Sway performances.

Regards,

Jerryghr

And I always say "if somewhere dares to disagree with the crowd, he gets hammered for having the nerve to "disagree with the crowd."

That wasn't a "complaint," Jerry. That was a critique....my OWN critique. Like a few others in here, I don't run with the herd.

I, coincidentally, just now finished re-recording the Sway riff and the In the Mood riff and I slowed it down 2x. Even at the "slowed down" speed he's playing mindlessly and with too many notes to make the tunes listenable. It's a show-off piece is what it is. If I'm demonstrating a keyboard to an audience of home players and entry level musicians, I'm going to show them what THEY could do with it, not what I can do with it. If I had advice to give him, I would say "park your ego at the door before you enter the demo room."

If you're talking about his version of Sway, as a showpiece...absolutely great. As a listening tune, mixed in with other Youtubes, I wouldn't even notice it

To his credit, he's a fantastic player with great fingering and technique. I just don't know if he's able to play an emotional song like "Color My World (Chicago)." Any musician who can play both ways to me is a MUSICIAN'S MUSICIAN.

Kudos also to the Tyros for that trumpet patch (and the way he plays it). Also the style......but if you don't use "breaks" it starts to weigh on you.

We all play the same songs differently, especially if we are on stage in front of a crowd, or in the case of Peter, where he's demonstrating the features of the keyboard. Now, I'm NOT a musician - just a hack entertainer that had to retire for health reasons. But damned, I had fun with Sway and usually filled a dance floor with the song, and with Peter, it would fill any dance floor in the world playing his rendition. In my case, my vocals are my right hand, while with Peter his right hand, in this case, is his vocals. However, he is a very, very good singer as well, and can sing in several languages. I recorded this one night just prior to my forced retirement. SWAY

Lighten up, Mark, it's only Wednesday,

Gary

Gary thanx for sharing...Love it!!

Thanks Donny, that recording was a few days before they put me in intensive care with double pneumonia. Two weeks later, I decided to retire.

All the best,

Gary