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#434713 - 07/19/17 01:21 PM Advice on Headphones
Bill Lewis Offline
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Probably been discussed before but I'm looking for some decent headphones for my BK9 and FP90. I'd like something that won't color the sound so when I do some editing and EQing it will sound the same thru my PA.
I have an old pair of AKG K240 but they put out very little volume. I also have a cheapo set I bought when I believe it was Don posted about the Stupid Deal of the Day a while back. They're louder but they're not mcu better than cheap ear buds.
So what do you guys use ??
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#434714 - 07/19/17 01:25 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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A while back when I was setting up my studio...Bachus had recommended these Senn HD280 pro headphones and I'm glad he did,.....
I just love these things!! headphone

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/hd-280-pro



Edited by Dnj (07/19/17 01:35 PM)

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#434730 - 07/19/17 03:05 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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I have used the Sennheiser HD280s for some time. The best I have ever used.
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#434737 - 07/19/17 04:55 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Thanks for the replies. I've been doing some research and it comes down to the Sony MDR7506 which seems to be an industry standard and the Sennheiser HD280 which you guys like a lot.
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#434738 - 07/19/17 04:56 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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+1 for the Sony. I've had 5-6 over the years in various studios.
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#434804 - 07/21/17 07:18 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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#434828 - 07/21/17 05:40 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Jerry
Thanks for the tip. I was just about to go for the Sennheisers when i read your post. checked in to the forum to see if there were any more recommendations.
I'm guessing a $200 sets got to be better than a $100 set. They do go for $199 on other sites. Called MFriend and I can return and trade for the Sennheisers if I don't like them so I took a shot.
Thanks to everyone else too for your info. I appreciate the help.


Edited by Bill Lewis (07/21/17 05:43 PM)
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#434836 - 07/21/17 11:02 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Thanks for the replies. I've been doing some research and it comes down to the Sony MDR7506 which seems to be an industry standard and the Sennheiser HD280 which you guys like a lot.



Bill......when it came headphone time for me, I too wanted something that "doesn't color the sound." I bought the Sony MDR-7506 headphones (extremely dry) at Sam Ash for $100. When they eventually broke, I thought I'd try something different this time around. Bought a pair of Audio-Technica (on recommendation) but way too heavy to wear. Returned them and tried the Sennheiser 280's....too much coloring. I ended up with another pair of........Sony MDR-7506 headphones. Can't go wrong for the price. BTW....I tried the higher priced Sony's and still went for the 7506.

Mark

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#434858 - 07/22/17 07:07 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Hi Bill and fellow "thread-weavers:"

Thanks for posting this topic because I spend hours using my headphones with the speakers turned off to allow my wife to retain her sanity. Wearability becomes a big factor to me, particularly "coolness" because sweaty ears can become a real annoyance when you are attempting to belt out a song recording.

I'm using a cheap set of AKG Headphones and believe I pay a heavy price for the poor "monitoring" factor they provide. They are reasonably cool after being used a couple of hours. I don't use "tracks" in the traditional sense when recording. (The keyboard's different instruments plus multi-pads are active if selected, during the entire live session.) No "mix-down" required. True, it may take me several recordings to get things sounding the way I want... but to me, it is a much simpler recording process. (My digital recorder has the capability of doing recordings either way.)

Do any of you experience the need for cooler headphones? I know you probably don't use them when performing... but I don't perform... I only record my original songs.

Thanks for any recommendations. ----Dave Rice

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#434863 - 07/22/17 07:50 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Bill,

Glad you saw the post in time. In the past I've asked Guitar Center to match the SD Day, and they do. Makes returns locally much easier.

Regards,

Jerry

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#435076 - 07/26/17 03:30 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Just got my AKG 553 headphone from MF. Wow is all I can say. Everything is so clear and they are plenty loud enough plugged directly into my BK9.

Thanks again Jer for the tip. These are a keeper.
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#435080 - 07/26/17 07:45 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Thanks for the update.

Glad they worked out for you.

Regards,

Jerryghr

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#435121 - 07/28/17 07:06 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Senn HD650. They simply blow the HD280 out of the water, IMO (I have both).

If you mix through headphones, try these out. Quality and comfort and amazing results, without using monitors.
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#435125 - 07/28/17 07:33 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Too late but Thanks. Maybe others are shopping for phones
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#435127 - 07/28/17 07:41 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Senn HD650. They simply blow the HD280 out of the water, IMO (I have both).

If you mix through headphones, try these out. Quality and comfort and amazing results, without using monitors.


I use the SENN HD 280s because they are closes phones.......
although the HD 650s are terriffic as an OPEN BACK set of phones for playing KB etc,.. but IMO for Recording you will hear everything outside of your phones in your recordings and you don't want that at all,..


Edited by Dnj (07/28/17 07:42 AM)

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#435141 - 07/28/17 10:01 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Senn HD650. They simply blow the HD280 out of the water, IMO (I have both).

If you mix through headphones, try these out. Quality and comfort and amazing results, without using monitors.


For the price difference the 280 are still a perfect match, espescially if you want as Donny says a closed system. It has a very flat characteristic.


Edited by Bachus (07/28/17 10:06 AM)
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#435188 - 07/29/17 07:37 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Oh I don't know about hearing everything outside the phones. I guess it depends on how quiet your studio is. All I know is I mixed through the 280s and the mix was dreadful. I remixed and balanced through the 650s and the results were astonishing.
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#435190 - 07/29/17 07:40 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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All the hoopla about FLAT for recording is probably true. I hated the HS8s and unloaded asap. I mix through the 650s entirely and would never use a monitor again.

And for anyone recording on the skinny - I use the Tascam DP-03 CD and the results are truly fantastic. I paid $99 and am blown away.
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#435195 - 07/29/17 08:30 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: zuki]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By zuki
Oh I don't know about hearing everything outside the phones. I guess it depends on how quiet your studio is. All I know is I mixed through the 280s and the mix was dreadful. I remixed and balanced through the 650s and the results were astonishing.


don't be fooled I can definitely hear the music in my Vocal tracks recordings when using any "open pair of headphones",...especially with a good studio condenser recording Mic,..........mixing is a different story having both versions closed for recording and open for mixing is the way to go..

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#435196 - 07/29/17 08:31 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: zuki]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By zuki
All the hoopla about FLAT for recording is probably true. I hated the HS8s and unloaded asap. I mix through the 650s entirely and would never use a monitor again.

And for anyone recording on the skinny - I use the Tascam DP-03 CD and the results are truly fantastic. I paid $99 and am blown away.


Zuki can you post a few of your song mixes Id like to hear them thru my studio monitors...would help me make a decision to get the HD650's..thanx

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#435770 - 08/09/17 09:14 AM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Dnj]
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Thru some good high recommendations I purchased a pair of Phillips Open HD headphones and they sound amazing, and with my closed Senn Pro HD 280 phons I now have the best of both worlds for playing and recording.... cool2

https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/X2_27/fidelio-fidelio-headphones

headphone


Edited by Dnj (08/09/17 09:16 AM)

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#435850 - 08/10/17 02:25 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Update on the AKG K553 Studio phones I got from Musicians Friend. I've been using them with my BK9 and even the bass pedals with my organ setup sound good. And I have them EQed for a big bottom sound, I like strong bass.
As for my FP90 Piano even though I have it plugged into my studio PA I've been playing it thru its onboard speakers alone and have been very happy, and I'm a guy who hated onboard speakers. So last night I tried the headphones with the FP90 Whoa !, I actually stopped playing and though I had the PA on. Amazing clarity. Played for another 1 1/2 hours. I may not be using my studio PA much anymore.
This morning I decided I wanted another pair, one for each keyboard, if I could get them for the same Stupid Deal price. Called Musicians Friend and after the salesperson checked he said they would sell me another pair at the Stupid DOD price which was 50% off. Nice.
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#435865 - 08/10/17 07:11 PM Re: Advice on Headphones [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Congrats Bill. If you don't ask, the answer is NO.
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