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#434860 - 07/22/17 07:18 AM
DAW Recording using Controller or Arranger KB?
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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I usually use MICXRAFT pro 8 DAW for recording songs, backing tracks etc, http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/mixcraft-pro-studio.html and there are so many other great DAW programs out there like.... Propellerhead Software Reason. ... Cakewalk Sonar. ... Cockos Reaper. ... PreSonus Studio One. ... Apple Logic Pro. ... Steinberg Cubase Pro. ... Ableton Live. ... Most times I will use my arranger KB to record into the DAW different tracks using styles, or separate mutltitrack sequences, etc, for music and then do my vocal tracks on top of that. I recently to make the workflow easier as i thought purchased for only $99.00 a small Controller KB and AKAI MPK Mini mkII just to keep on my desk to to record into the DAW easier, as an alternative to using the much larger S970,... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQHayN69T24I guess I'm just old school as it was a bit confusing at first to set up the controller to do what I wanted and then after a few hours said to my self,.. "why did I buy this?" "do I really need it?" it's not that its a bad product, on the contrary, it's an amazing small piece of gear used by hundreds of musicians around the world. But personally for me I can do it all with my arranger KB just the same although my laziness kicked in and made me think something smaller would make it easier, NOT!!...but in reality it didn't, so I returned it and called it a day. I should of listened to Fran's advice) The whole controller process is a bit daunting to setup but with patience (of which I don't have much) it certainly can be done if you know how. For me working with a DAW like Mixcraft 8 Pro & all of its VST effects programs like Izotope Ozone 5 Advanced is amazingly powerful and have no trouble when I work with an arranger KB and my own vocal tracks to create music as it's basically an "All IN ONE" for my needs, editing is a breeze and very powerful to master the mix and get exactly the sound that I want for the end result. Doing it all & recording in the arranger keyboard never gets me the desired result I need, So with that said I wanted to ask you people here on SZ are you using your arranger or controller to record or edit your music,.....If so what feels more comfortable for you and why?...as for me I chalk it off as another lesson learned in my musical journey.... and if there's no replies I understand ..Carry On
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#434892 - 07/22/17 10:41 PM
Re: DAW Recording using Controller or Arranger KB?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 521
Loc: University, MS 38677 USA
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I use Yamaha arrangers to play live; however, when it comes to recording, I’ve never recorded one thing on the arranger itself. Too cumbersome and complicated. I use PreSonus Studio One, Windows version. Works like a charm for detailed editing, adding vocals, overdubs, pitch correction, making wav files, mp3s, burning CDs, and all the rest. I play everything live from the arranger and guitar. Never used midi, controllers, or anything like that. Guess it’s an old school approach, but it’s comfortable to me. I started out years ago with reel to reel multitracks. Wonderful tools, now.
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#434895 - 07/23/17 01:38 AM
Re: DAW Recording using Controller or Arranger KB?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5396
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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A DAW is like a Workstation in that you build up what you want from scratch, (Whatever you want you can do, it’s only limited by your imagination) An Arranger is press a button and play, as everything is done for you so is dead easy to make music. Now while some will say you can do on an arranger what you can do on a Workstation, (And vice versa) it’s actually a load of cobblers, as while there are similarities, they are completely different instruments designed for different jobs. Another error arranger players make when they go for a DAW, is that they go for one of the top versions thinking it will do everything they want, (Which it will if you know how to do it and have the time) however, most arranger players will probably never use 909% of what’s available, so they would be better off buying the entry level versions (All allow an easy upgrade path) as it will do everything they need without confusing them. Regarding Midi Controllers, then unless it is a cheapo special, you will find templates available (Most DAWs have them built in) that you can use to automatically set it up for whichever DAW you use, (Which if you are not technical is ideal) so you don’t have to worry about it. A style (Arranger) engine that could be added to a Workstation as an option would be ideal; unfortunately, they are 2 different departments which never meet, so I wouldn’t hold your breath. As to a recommendation, then just like there is no one size to fit all Arranger or Workstation, the same applies to DAWs, so it’s a matter of downloading the trial versions to see which suits you best and going on from there. As to arrangers, then if you want easy but with limited control, then Yamaha is the way to go, however if you want to get more down and dirty, then Korg is the way to go, (To be honest the Korg PA4x is probably everything an arranger player will ever need to get down and dirty, particularly as it has both an Easy and Pro mode) with the rest being in the middle. In the final analysis though, no matter what you buy, if you haven’t got the talent then you’re never going to move outside the box. (No matter what magic features you keyboard and/or DAW has) Hopefully the above has given you something to ponder over, before you jump.
Happy pondering
Bill
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