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#434779 - 07/20/17 05:38 PM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: abacus]
captain Russ Offline
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I have Don's old Midjay. Was going to try it with the new Hammond this weekend.

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#434782 - 07/20/17 08:39 PM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: captain Russ]
DonM Offline
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Originally Posted By captain Russ
I have Don's old Midjay. Was going to try it with the new Hammond this weekend.

R.


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#434784 - 07/21/17 01:29 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Bernie, BK7m. Great sounding drums and decent drum patterns. I don't gig anymore but in my rehearsal room, that is what I use with my Organ. Better than a drum machine.

chas
well, that is only available as used parts...
And does not come close to the SD40


Why a used part, it’s still in production and can be picked up at virtually all music shops that sell keyboards, not forgetting all the online music stores.

Bill
old stock...

There hasnt been produced a single bk7 since Roland Italy was closed..
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#434787 - 07/21/17 02:30 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bernie9]
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The question still remains whether a module of any kind can be used effectively with the SK1 when it comes to changing leads between the two. Once this is answered, I can know which way to go. I can see that layering is what would happen, most likely. If so, it would be a question of r/h volume, I guess.

The following I know:
1. Rhythm is most important, and easily attainable either way.
2. modules would provide the rhythm and, at least, layering.
3. The SK1 has libraries of other acoustic and electronic sounds that I can very easily layer or solo on r/h. However, not the quality of good modules or kbs, I would guess.
4. As a compromise, I would reluctantly go with a second keyboard, but would rather have an SD40.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and would really like to know from you midi gurus the answer to the r/h lead question.
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#434788 - 07/21/17 02:40 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: abacus]
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Bernie I still have the Korg Mini, it’s in my closet never got to use it. It’s yours if you wish.
John C.

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#434796 - 07/21/17 05:37 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bernie9]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
The question still remains whether a module of any kind can be used effectively with the SK1 when it comes to changing leads between the two. Once this is answered, I can know which way to go. I can see that layering is what would happen, most likely. If so, it would be a question of r/h volume, I guess.

The following I know:
1. Rhythm is most important, and easily attainable either way.
2. modules would provide the rhythm and, at least, layering.
3. The SK1 has libraries of other acoustic and electronic sounds that I can very easily layer or solo on r/h. However, not the quality of good modules or kbs, I would guess.
4. As a compromise, I would reluctantly go with a second keyboard, but would rather have an SD40.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and would really like to know from you midi gurus the answer to the r/h lead question.


Bernie sounds like your struggling to make the SK1 into an arranger somehow I can understand that coming from your arranger KB experience and miss the accompaniment features,...but you also have some very fine arranger kbs that can do the same job "all in one" correct?
what am I missing here?..

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#434797 - 07/21/17 05:48 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bernie9]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
The question still remains whether a module of any kind can be used effectively with the SK1 when it comes to changing leads between the two. Once this is answered, I can know which way to go. I can see that layering is what would happen, most likely. If so, it would be a question of r/h volume, I guess.

The following I know:
1. Rhythm is most important, and easily attainable either way.
2. modules would provide the rhythm and, at least, layering.
3. The SK1 has libraries of other acoustic and electronic sounds that I can very easily layer or solo on r/h. However, not the quality of good modules or kbs, I would guess.
4. As a compromise, I would reluctantly go with a second keyboard, but would rather have an SD40.

I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and would really like to know from you midi gurus the answer to the r/h lead question.


Bernie, i checked the manuall...

The voice structure of the SK1, allows for 1 upper, 1 lower and one extra voice(which can be assigned to either lower or upper..

On top of that there are 3 extra voices assigned to midi channels, you can program that extra voices keyrange....

You can assign all these 6 voices (3 internal and 3 external voices) to a patch which is kind of a keyboardset on the pa4x...

You can assign these patches to your favorite buttons on the SK1.. so if you created a patch that only sends on external 1 midi zone and then assign that to the midi channel where the sd40 receives midi for rughthand voices, you would have a single button to switch between sk1 righthand and SD40 righthand..

So basically with some diving into the menu's and some programming you can create exactly what you want... a single button on your sk1 to switch between sk1 voices and sd40 voices...

So yes, the sk1 can work perfectly together with the SD40, if you know how to program it.. ( all according to me diving into the manuall, not from handson experience)


Ceck the manual HERE
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#434798 - 07/21/17 05:55 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bernie9]
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John- Thanks for the offer. I will see what it comes down to.

Donny-It comes down to the sound and weight. The way they ramp up the lower drum along with the horns. In addition to the Leslie accuracy and flexibility, the sound itself is much more reminiscent to me of the B3. It is better to me than the Nord or Pa4X in that regard. I may not be an expert on midi, but the B3 is a different matter.


Edited by Bernie9 (07/21/17 05:57 AM)
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#434799 - 07/21/17 06:08 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bernie9]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
John- Thanks for the offer. I will see what it comes down to.

Donny-It comes down to the sound and weight. The way they ramp up the lower drum along with the horns. In addition to the Leslie accuracy and flexibility, the sound itself is much more reminiscent to me of the B3. It is better to me than the Nord or Pa4X in that regard. I may not be an expert on midi, but the B3 is a different matter.


Berie I wish you all the luck in whatever your trying to accomplish with this new setup which is a bit unclear to me at this time..at the end of the day what exactly are you trying to do musically with the SK1 vs your arrangers when performing? confused1

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#434802 - 07/21/17 06:50 AM Re: Ideas For Supplementing Hammond SK1 for Rhythm [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By abacus
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By cgiles
Bernie, BK7m. Great sounding drums and decent drum patterns. I don't gig anymore but in my rehearsal room, that is what I use with my Organ. Better than a drum machine.

chas
well, that is only available as used parts...
And does not come close to the SD40


Why a used part, it’s still in production and can be picked up at virtually all music shops that sell keyboards, not forgetting all the online music stores.

Bill
old stock...

There hasnt been produced a single bk7 since Roland Italy was closed..


Not sure of the relevance of Roland Italy as the BK7m is made in China, as far as I am aware Roland Italy had nothing to do with the BK7m as it was conceived by Roland US and selected for production via Roland Japan. (It was going to be the replacement for the Roland G70 called the G90, however when Roland pulled out of the TOTL Arranger market, all the development was incorporated into the BK7m)
In addition if a product is discontinued it says so on the Roland website, yet all the Roland sites still have a buy now button, not a discontinued button.

Bill
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