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#435519 - 08/03/17 10:40 AM
Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
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Edited by Dnj (08/03/17 10:41 AM)
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#435537 - 08/03/17 03:17 PM
Re: Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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I don't get out that much but like Gary and DonM, I don't see any indication of 'live' performance going in that direction around these parts. I guess there are a few KJ/DJ type venues somewhere around Atlanta, but all the well-known clubs, etc. feature live music of some type. The most common seem to be 'Blues' clubs, followed by Country, followed by Rock.
The other thing I don't agree with is that machines like the one above is the 'future of music'. It may turn out to have a niche in (so-called) 'live performance' (in a few selected venues - like former karaoke bars), but it most certainly is not the future of MUSIC (as in music creation). For the most part, these things are really just a highly evolved, highly controllable, 'record player' (sans vocal track). Truth is, I can't imagine why any MUSICIAN would even want one (to create music with--or even perform with). I also don't believe that the audience (except for maybe the MOST uninformed) doesn't care where the music is coming from. If that were true, what would be the motivation for wanting to play there? Or, are you saying that musicians don't care about being musicians anymore. I hope I'm dead and gone before we reach that state.
Anyhoo, JMO.
chas
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#435541 - 08/03/17 03:35 PM
Re: Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
[Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2447
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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I don't get out that much but like Gary and DonM, I don't see any indication of 'live' performance going in that direction around these parts. I guess there are a few KJ/DJ type venues somewhere around Atlanta, but all the well-known clubs, etc. feature live music of some type. The most common seem to be 'Blues' clubs, followed by Country, followed by Rock.
The other thing I don't agree with is that machines like the one above is the 'future of music'. It may turn out to have a niche in (so-called) 'live performance' (in a few selected venues - like former karaoke bars), but it most certainly is not the future of MUSIC (as in music creation). For the most part, these things are really just a highly evolved, highly controllable, 'record player' (sans vocal track). Truth is, I can't imagine why any MUSICIAN would even want one (to create music with--or even perform with). I also don't believe that the audience (except for maybe the MOST uninformed) doesn't care where the music is coming from. If that were true, what would be the motivation for wanting to play there? Or, are you saying that musicians don't care about being musicians anymore. I hope I'm dead and gone before we reach that state.
Anyhoo, JMO.
chas There will be bands for along time in certain situations but economics dictate this new kind of preforming. At,least 10 years ago a good friend of mine ditched bringing his keyboard and went Singing/ DJ . He's still going strong in Nothern NJ He can be more versatile and do more,contemporary music. He's just one example of a few I know of. No one,complains if he's not playing, they like the singing and the dance music.
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#435551 - 08/03/17 05:33 PM
Re: Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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What is missing with all these gadgets is the visual effect and impact of a performing musician/entertainer. The audience can see you playing a guitar, keyboard, piano, synth, etc... They know it is YOU creating that music - LIVE! With the advanced record player/karaoke machine there is a significant part of the entertainment missing. This ain't rocket science. Those visual effects are a big draw - no question about it, despite what Donny predicts. Gary
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#435557 - 08/03/17 07:19 PM
Re: Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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I agree, Bill - but as you and many of us are well aware, finding a drop-dead, gorgeous gal that can stand in front of a live audience and belt out those tunes is akin to being struck by lightning, though if I recall, Fran had a couple working with him for many years on the beach. Gary
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#435563 - 08/03/17 09:27 PM
Re: Merish 4 MIDI Mp3 Backing Track Player & VH
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
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OK, a couple of things ...
First of all, I guess I'm old, very particular, or both, because I did not see a smokin' hot chick in that video ...
Now, about the unit - I can see it being used in some venues, especially if it is to augment the sound of a 2 - 3 piece group. It certainly seems to have a lot of good features, for someone who does not want to - or cannot - transport a keyboard around. Of course the video was staged, but I found it interesting that the people in the background were socializing, and not really dancing - but I guess if this 'box' were hooked up to a good PA system with a thumping bass, people would dance.
As for tracks vs 'live' music, again it depends on the venue ... I think we all have seen dance clubs with DJs and crowded dance floors - well, is this any different? If people are going out to dance, as long as the music is stuff they know, is loud, and is thumping, they will dance ...
However, if I am going to see a vocalist or musician perform, do I want them performing to backing tracks all night? I don't think so - BUT, that being said, I have seen those three young, great Italian singers - "Il VOLO" live in concert with an orchestra of about 16 players, and yet each one of them did one solo each to a backing track of a full symphony orchestra and singers.
As for the gigs many of us on this board play - NH/AL/Sr Centers, etc. those audiences do not care if we are playing an instrument or not. What they want is to be 'entertained'. I work gigs as a soloist with my KORG Pa900 and I also work gigs with a female vocalist using only 'backing tracks'. When we work one of those gigs, do people come up and say "OH, you didn't play any instruments" ? NO!!! they come up and say things like "we love your voices", "You two sing so well together", "We love your singing, especially the duets", etc. etc., etc. ... At a couple of AL places I work, I am one of the very few who actually plays an instrument - even though I know that some of the other performers play keys, or guitar very well. They just don't want to go through the trouble of transporting and setting up additional equipment. I also find, that performing strictly as a vocalist using 'backing tracks', I have a certain amount of 'freedom' as an "entertainer", while performing with the keyboard gives me a different 'freedom' to express myself as a "musician".
Now, as far as the future of music goes, the entertainment section of our newspaper on Thursday is filled with listings of what musician/singer/band is playing where (and chas, there are a good number of Jazz venues also). Now some of these 'acts' are 'tributes' where a guy does a Buble act, or another does Sinatra, or another does Dean Martin, all using 'backing tracks, but for the most part there are good musicians playing their instruments, so I am fairly confident that 'live' music will be around for a while yet ... And as long as I am still around doing what I do, while I really enjoy being a 'vocalist', I will prefer to perform with my keyboard ...
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