If Yamaha puts half of stuff that players want into the new Yamaha keyboards it will surely raise the price. Many home players (that's
what Yamaha aims for) will not buy a keyboard that has features that
home players will NEVER use. Solution?

Make a special edition for pro players with all the features that home
players will not use and both sides will be happy. Lloyd

This will raise questions from Yamaha players and that's good. Lloyd

... and KETRON players too .... we should follow suit ...

Lloyd and AJ, that will NEVER happen. Pro players make up less than 1/10th of 1-percent of the sales worldwide. As for the price being too high, I kinda doubt it, simply because Yamaha knows where its market is and knows how to stay in the game - they're been doing this for decades.

All the best,

Gary

I agree with Gary. The typical Tyros owner plays at home and uses maybe 25% of the keyboard's full capability. The price of the Genos will probably be similar to the Tyros. The average buyer is older and has money. Do look for the Genos to have a touch screen and if rumors can be believed, IPad connectivity.

All speculation at this point,...let's just wait and see,......that said, I have no intention of buying whatever it is..and will there be a Genos jr. also motl unit?
I've lost all excitement for Yamaha at this time ...

I assume Yamaha will keep the PSR-S line and the Genos features will trickle down to that model in 18 months to 2 years. Unless they launch a new PSR line to match the Genos. But all speculation as you say. Should know by this time next month if you can believe the rumors.

Yamaha can do whatever it wants to do, for sure. I’ve got two of their top-end arrangers and enjoy them very much. However, I’m gigging constantly with Band In A Box, which suits me just fine. Yamaha can take all the time it needs. Surely, they realize there’s some good competitors out there.

How does band in a box compare to using Yamaha styles?

I disagree, what people want is mostly software and most of it has allready been developed for other keyboards... you need to calculate the price for hardware features and software feutures totally different...

Yamaha will cater to the home organ player until this generation is gone,
.......it's their cash cow and has been for years.

Yamaha will cater to the home organ player- It is very important
that they do. Older people have the cash and most know music from yesterday. Excellent intros, beautiful arrangements with
more than two chords. This is music at it's best !

Todays music is more based on style and rhythm, not music content.
This should cause a stir ! Lloyd

All the more reason for Yamaha to keep it simple to use..

Totally agree Lloyd. Music consists of melody, harmony, rhythm and lyrics (if sung). Rap got rid of melody and harmony. The rhythm is center stage now.

Yamaha has waited too long to release it's new keyboard and Korg
has stole many players because of the features they have included.

Yamaha just might be surprised at how many buyers "Don't give a
Damn" anymore. Lloyd

Lloyd,
I think you are right about Yamaha missing the boat. Even if the new Yamaha keyboard is awesome I wonder how many folks who bought the PA4X would make a change.

Deane

If they cut the weight by 10 pounds, reduced the size to something I could handle easily, gave it the operating features of the PA4X, made the vocal harmonizer good, and priced it in line with the Korg...
I still wouldn't be interested.

DITTO....all MY needs are met and more with the KORG Pa4x 2.01 it's a real powerhouse arranger!

Korg is NOT my favorite keyboard and there are those who agree.
Yamaha is a home players dream where weight isn't a factor and
if you don't sing. forget the voice multiplier and mic ops.

So, different strokes for different folks so all the tweaking
and fusing ain't for all of us. Lloyd

It's great we have several wonderful options in arrangers! There are no wrong choices; just what suits your needs best.

Then the Genos might even surprise you....

Only time will tell...

yes I'll be surprised if I am impressed.

I'll say this-if Genos is a revolutionary arranger I might even be interested, although I would probably wait for the mid-level model. But even the rumors from the French site don't really back this up. They said it would look more like Montage but not too much. And it would have an iPad app. It also is expected to have a touch screen and a faster processor and a new operating system. That's a nice upgrade but not revolutionary.

since when is a Tyros 5 cheap?
MEL

It depends on your income.

Gary

Don, I like your answer to my raving about Korg and Yamaha.
You have an open mind and don't go to pieces when someone
has different ideas of a ideal keyboard. You will always be
one of mmy favorite Synthzone friends. Lloyd

Don, I like your answer to my raving about Korg and Yamaha.
You have an open mind and don't go to pieces when someone
has different ideas of a ideal keyboard. You will always be
one of mmy favorite Synthzone friends. Lloyd

Vegas odds are 2/1 Donny buys one

Just sayin

No way Im all done...praise KORG!!

When i look at the title.... New Yamaha keyboard could be expensive?
We all know it will be expensive, no matter whats inside, do we?

I think for europe we will see a 300 euro price raise...
However for the US, with the dollar being much closer to the euro then in 2013..
We might even see a small pricedrop.