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#437614 - 09/16/17 07:10 PM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Dnj]
mweuch Offline
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I hope it’s less than 5K, TYROS 5 too much.

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#437617 - 09/16/17 08:25 PM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Dnj]
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Well my Montage 76 was $4350 AUD so I would expect Genos to be somewhere around there if Yamaha want to make workstation inroads into this makes great sense.

I gotta tell you I think the Montage is the most exciting instrument I have played, and if Genos is anywhere like it with the inclusion of styles etc, this will be very exciting

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#437618 - 09/16/17 08:35 PM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Robbo]
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Originally Posted By Robbo
Well my Montage 76 was $4350 AUD so I would expect Genos to be somewhere around there if Yamaha want to make workstation inroads into this makes great sense.

I gotta tell you I think the Montage is the most exciting instrument I have played, and if Genos is anywhere like it with the inclusion of styles etc, this will be very exciting


Montage 6 was exactly €1000 cheaper then Tyros 5-61. So dont expect the Genos to be any cheaper... Montage pricing is comparabale to Motif, Tyros has allways been more expensive
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#437620 - 09/16/17 08:51 PM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Robbo]
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Originally Posted By Robbo
Well my Montage 76 was $4350 AUD so I would expect Genos to be somewhere around there if Yamaha want to make workstation inroads into this makes great sense.

I gotta tell you I think the Montage is the most exciting instrument I have played, and if Genos is anywhere like it with the inclusion of styles etc, this will be very exciting


I think the arrangers such as the TYROS61 or the Pa4X61 are way more expensive the the 61 key montage and kronos! For example, montage and Kronos 61 are priced at around 3K while the arrangers are between 4k to 5k.

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#437623 - 09/16/17 11:11 PM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: frankieve]
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Originally Posted By frankieve
sounds like there is a lot of people overreacting to something they don't know much about. If Yamaha has decided, which they should, to bring in more modern elements into the Genos, it would be a very smart move on their part, remember, if you go back 10-20-30 years etc, people would be saying, if you guys bring that crazy rock music in we are going to be ruined, those long hair Beatles or that crazy hip-shaking Elvis, or that foul mouth Johnny Cash.

Just because Yamaha likes to highlight the new stuff, doesn't mean they neglected or took out the old stuff. For all you know, they re-worked all the styles and added specific sounds to highlight those styles.

Yamaha has to move forward and embrace new music and new technology, name me one company that has stayed in the past and has flourished? Even companies that seem that way have secretly modernized, it's human nature. Even if you are playing rehab centers or retirement homes, let's say they median age is 80-90 years old, guess what, 10- years from now, the 70-80-year-olds will be there, and 20 years from now, the 60-70, and so on.

So, unfortunately, things will progress and change, you can either try to fight it and you will not win, or embrace it, and slowly change with it.

I am looking forward to Yamaha showing us what they can do. I gig with a Tyros 5, and can pretty much 95% say i will be with a Genos without even hearing it.

I absolutely agree with you Frank..
I think yamaha brings, really, a revolutionary Arranger/Workstation Keyboard...
We waiting at to 2nd October more information...


Edited by Sokratis 1974 (09/16/17 11:13 PM)
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#437624 - 09/17/17 12:09 AM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Dnj]
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I guess we have to pay for the manpower of sequencing the arrangements and programming the sounds. $1.50 per sound and $2.50 per style?!? That's pretty cheap! But, we only use 25-75 sounds... good sounds!! Everyone is different so that's why we need 1200 sounds and 500 styles.

October 2nd is a Monday!! Looking forward to the specs!!!
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#437626 - 09/17/17 02:08 AM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Dnj]
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Official Launch October 2nd, shipping in November, with pre-orders hopefully filled before Christmas. Launch Date

Bill
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#437627 - 09/17/17 02:10 AM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: mweuch]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
Originally Posted By mweuch
Originally Posted By Robbo
Well my Montage 76 was $4350 AUD so I would expect Genos to be somewhere around there if Yamaha want to make workstation inroads into this makes great sense.

I gotta tell you I think the Montage is the most exciting instrument I have played, and if Genos is anywhere like it with the inclusion of styles etc, this will be very exciting


I think the arrangers such as the TYROS61 or the Pa4X61 are way more expensive the the 61 key montage and kronos! For example, montage and Kronos 61 are priced at around 3K while the arrangers are between 4k to 5k.


Kronos 73 and PA4x 76 are virtually the same price. (£3060, £3166)
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#437630 - 09/17/17 03:06 AM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: Sokratis 1974]
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Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 86
Loc: Finland
Originally Posted By Sokratis 1974
Originally Posted By frankieve
sounds like there is a lot of people overreacting to something they don't know much about. If Yamaha has decided, which they should, to bring in more modern elements into the Genos, it would be a very smart move on their part, remember, if you go back 10-20-30 years etc, people would be saying, if you guys bring that crazy rock music in we are going to be ruined, those long hair Beatles or that crazy hip-shaking Elvis, or that foul mouth Johnny Cash.

Just because Yamaha likes to highlight the new stuff, doesn't mean they neglected or took out the old stuff. For all you know, they re-worked all the styles and added specific sounds to highlight those styles.

Yamaha has to move forward and embrace new music and new technology, name me one company that has stayed in the past and has flourished? Even companies that seem that way have secretly modernized, it's human nature. Even if you are playing rehab centers or retirement homes, let's say they median age is 80-90 years old, guess what, 10- years from now, the 70-80-year-olds will be there, and 20 years from now, the 60-70, and so on.

So, unfortunately, things will progress and change, you can either try to fight it and you will not win, or embrace it, and slowly change with it.

I am looking forward to Yamaha showing us what they can do. I gig with a Tyros 5, and can pretty much 95% say i will be with a Genos without even hearing it.

I absolutely agree with you Frank..
I think yamaha brings, really, a revolutionary Arranger/Workstation Keyboard...
We waiting at to 2nd October more information...


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#437631 - 09/17/17 03:16 AM Re: GENOS Revealed [Re: hammer]
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Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 86
Loc: Finland
Originally Posted By hammer
Donny,
You are really right. This year I will play about 270 senior venue gigs. About double what I usually play and the ONLY change has been my move from Yamaha to Ketron.

Deane


You're getting paid for all these gigs right?

I don't understand why you couldn't cough up 5 grand immediately for a new revolutionary Yamaha arranger. I know I will.
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