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#440051 - 10/29/17 02:09 AM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Bachus]
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How many samples can a single note of a single sound contain..
For Yamaha its 8
For Korg its 18
For Roland its 4
How many is it for Ketron?
3 GM or user Multisamples sounds with velocity zone...
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#440114 - 10/30/17 01:44 PM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Bachus]
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I think that is the keyboard sets , 3 sounds for right hand, 2 for elft hand and 1 for 2nd voice..
I am actually talking about a single sound.. how many layers can these have? Bachus... The Single Factory Sounds that Ketron call as (Voice) on Audya & SD9Pro and the Programs (as user sounds), is 3 GM Sounds or Ram Multisample and 3 Velocity Layers... Thats all...
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#440179 - 10/31/17 11:47 PM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: DanO1]
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Ketron has always had "Programs".
Programs allow you to combine 4 different sounds at a time.
Is this what you're asking ?
Yes.. Its 3 Sounds in the Program and one sound in the 2nd Sound is total 4...
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#440197 - 11/01/17 09:07 AM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Bachus]
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Ketron must have added a voice, as my Audya 76 is three plus the 2nd voice.
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#440246 - 11/02/17 12:59 AM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: DanO1]
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Program is 4 sounds. 2nd voice would make a 5th.
Former ketron demo guy Dear friend.. I have the Audya since 2009... I have programming lot of my sounds.... Ok... This is from Manual of Audya: F1/F6–VOICES
By pressing the F1 or F6 buttons you will highlight
repeatedly one of three voices that you can assign to
the same PROGRAM.See please in the page 48https://www.ketron.it/images/ketron/manualiPdf/E_AUDYA_SERIE_28_04_2011_SMALL.pdf
Edited by Sokratis 1974 (11/02/17 12:59 AM)
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#440293 - 11/02/17 04:35 PM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Bachus]
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Bachus. Total is 4 for KETRON (based on the terminology used by other manufacturers. The actual sound itself (say Bachus Sax) can be made up of:- * Voice 1: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 2: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 3: Factory Sound or User Sample ** Voice 4: Factory Sound (that can instantly be turned off/on from the panel using the 2nd voice button and whose volume can instantly be adjusted also from the panel using the 2nd Voice Volume slider). Voices 1-3 and independently be programmed to be triggered by velocity, crossfade switching, Morphing (e.g. Voice 1 to Voice 2 using the Modulation wheel), Sustain impact/not impact a voice, Split at different parts of the keyboard, set for each voice, LFO, Attach, Sustain, Release values, Effects type, Harmony types ...etc TO CREATE YOUR NEW SOUND/Voice! This new sound and it's settings is then saved as a PROGRAM VOICE (PROGRAM Voices are 2 or more voices layered or edited and stored as a single voice). Hope this better answers your question? In addition, you can also have a LEFT voice plus 2 other additional LEFT voices (LOWERS) which are set by the STYLE (so each style can store 2 LOWER voices) but controlled manually by your LEFT hand (bringing the total LEFT voices to 3 and RIGHT TO 4) - that's having access to 7 Voices/samples at once!! This should explain it's massive 196 Notes polyphony - even way back then when most manufacturers were/are at 128! When it comes to this though, we have to also be careful. When you play say a TRUMPET sound on a KETRON product, it sounds rich, thick and full. This is considered as one voice/sound utilizing one sample (for the most part). To re-create this same voice on another manufacturer's instrument, it may require you to LAYER 2 trumpets to yield the same results (thus using/layering 2 or more samples) to get the same sound KETRON uses 1 Sample to create. This (and other design elements) are what set the KETRON product ahead when it comes to live sound! Thanks,
How many samples can a single note of a single sound contain..
For Yamaha its 8
For Korg its 18
For Roland its 4
How many is it for Ketron?
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#440592 - 11/09/17 03:05 AM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Bachus. Total is 4 for KETRON (based on the terminology used by other manufacturers. The actual sound itself (say Bachus Sax) can be made up of:- * Voice 1: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 2: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 3: Factory Sound or User Sample ** Voice 4: Factory Sound (that can instantly be turned off/on from the panel using the 2nd voice button and whose volume can instantly be adjusted also from the panel using the 2nd Voice Volume slider). Voices 1-3 and independently be programmed to be triggered by velocity, crossfade switching, Morphing (e.g. Voice 1 to Voice 2 using the Modulation wheel), Sustain impact/not impact a voice, Split at different parts of the keyboard, set for each voice, LFO, Attach, Sustain, Release values, Effects type, Harmony types ...etc TO CREATE YOUR NEW SOUND/Voice! This new sound and it's settings is then saved as a PROGRAM VOICE (PROGRAM Voices are 2 or more voices layered or edited and stored as a single voice). Hope this better answers your question? In addition, you can also have a LEFT voice plus 2 other additional LEFT voices (LOWERS) which are set by the STYLE (so each style can store 2 LOWER voices) but controlled manually by your LEFT hand (bringing the total LEFT voices to 3 and RIGHT TO 4) - that's having access to 7 Voices/samples at once!! This should explain it's massive 196 Notes polyphony - even way back then when most manufacturers were/are at 128! When it comes to this though, we have to also be careful. When you play say a TRUMPET sound on a KETRON product, it sounds rich, thick and full. This is considered as one voice/sound utilizing one sample (for the most part). To re-create this same voice on another manufacturer's instrument, it may require you to LAYER 2 trumpets to yield the same results (thus using/layering 2 or more samples) to get the same sound KETRON uses 1 Sample to create. This (and other design elements) are what set the KETRON product ahead when it comes to live sound! Thanks,
How many samples can a single note of a single sound contain..
For Yamaha its 8
For Korg its 18
For Roland its 4
How many is it for Ketron?
Okay, so basically one voice is one sample/key?
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#440626 - 11/09/17 06:01 PM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Bachus]
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Bachus. Total is 4 for KETRON (based on the terminology used by other manufacturers. The actual sound itself (say Bachus Sax) can be made up of:- * Voice 1: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 2: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 3: Factory Sound or User Sample ** Voice 4: Factory Sound (that can instantly be turned off/on from the panel using the 2nd voice button and whose volume can instantly be adjusted also from the panel using the 2nd Voice Volume slider). Voices 1-3 and independently be programmed to be triggered by velocity, crossfade switching, Morphing (e.g. Voice 1 to Voice 2 using the Modulation wheel), Sustain impact/not impact a voice, Split at different parts of the keyboard, set for each voice, LFO, Attach, Sustain, Release values, Effects type, Harmony types ...etc TO CREATE YOUR NEW SOUND/Voice! This new sound and it's settings is then saved as a PROGRAM VOICE (PROGRAM Voices are 2 or more voices layered or edited and stored as a single voice). Hope this better answers your question? In addition, you can also have a LEFT voice plus 2 other additional LEFT voices (LOWERS) which are set by the STYLE (so each style can store 2 LOWER voices) but controlled manually by your LEFT hand (bringing the total LEFT voices to 3 and RIGHT TO 4) - that's having access to 7 Voices/samples at once!! This should explain it's massive 196 Notes polyphony - even way back then when most manufacturers were/are at 128! When it comes to this though, we have to also be careful. When you play say a TRUMPET sound on a KETRON product, it sounds rich, thick and full. This is considered as one voice/sound utilizing one sample (for the most part). To re-create this same voice on another manufacturer's instrument, it may require you to LAYER 2 trumpets to yield the same results (thus using/layering 2 or more samples) to get the same sound KETRON uses 1 Sample to create. This (and other design elements) are what set the KETRON product ahead when it comes to live sound! Thanks,
How many samples can a single note of a single sound contain..
For Yamaha its 8
For Korg its 18
For Roland its 4
How many is it for Ketron?
Okay, so basically one voice is one sample/key? No. One key can be programmed to trigger up to 3 samples to create a voice. Hope this makes more sense now....
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#440864 - 11/14/17 01:09 PM
Re: Ketron sound engine
[Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Bachus. Total is 4 for KETRON (based on the terminology used by other manufacturers. The actual sound itself (say Bachus Sax) can be made up of:- * Voice 1: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 2: Factory Sound or User Sample * Voice 3: Factory Sound or User Sample ** Voice 4: Factory Sound (that can instantly be turned off/on from the panel using the 2nd voice button and whose volume can instantly be adjusted also from the panel using the 2nd Voice Volume slider). Voices 1-3 and independently be programmed to be triggered by velocity, crossfade switching, Morphing (e.g. Voice 1 to Voice 2 using the Modulation wheel), Sustain impact/not impact a voice, Split at different parts of the keyboard, set for each voice, LFO, Attach, Sustain, Release values, Effects type, Harmony types ...etc TO CREATE YOUR NEW SOUND/Voice! This new sound and it's settings is then saved as a PROGRAM VOICE (PROGRAM Voices are 2 or more voices layered or edited and stored as a single voice). Hope this better answers your question? In addition, you can also have a LEFT voice plus 2 other additional LEFT voices (LOWERS) which are set by the STYLE (so each style can store 2 LOWER voices) but controlled manually by your LEFT hand (bringing the total LEFT voices to 3 and RIGHT TO 4) - that's having access to 7 Voices/samples at once!! This should explain it's massive 196 Notes polyphony - even way back then when most manufacturers were/are at 128! When it comes to this though, we have to also be careful. When you play say a TRUMPET sound on a KETRON product, it sounds rich, thick and full. This is considered as one voice/sound utilizing one sample (for the most part). To re-create this same voice on another manufacturer's instrument, it may require you to LAYER 2 trumpets to yield the same results (thus using/layering 2 or more samples) to get the same sound KETRON uses 1 Sample to create. This (and other design elements) are what set the KETRON product ahead when it comes to live sound! Thanks,
How many samples can a single note of a single sound contain..
For Yamaha its 8
For Korg its 18
For Roland its 4
How many is it for Ketron?
Okay, so basically one voice is one sample/key? No. One key can be programmed to trigger up to 3 samples to create a voice. Hope this makes more sense now.... Yes, now it does...
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