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#440869 - 11/14/17 03:20 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: spalding1968]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Originally Posted By spalding1968
The volume on the Genos has been deliberately boosted more than the tyros . Similarly the Genoa sound has been equalised to boost the bass and drum to give it a more live sound. And the balance of the instruments on the tyros has been messed with . This is dishonest marketing . I don’t know what the instruments would sound like next to each other but the tyros 5 does not sound as dull as that comparison . Listen to the tyros 5 main demonstration when they were trying to sell it https://youtu.be/hA4BRH_DCsE.

Drums and bass sound great and the styles are properly equalised and balanced . Nothing like the Genos and tyros comparison .


Spalding I suppose if he had a T5 in the mix that would have been an ulitmate test. smile

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#440870 - 11/14/17 03:22 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: spalding1968]
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the whole sound of genos is more bright and crystal , maybe if you will change the eq of the tyrus in the mixer and in the edite mode ' you will get almost the same sound in the styles and patches.
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#440871 - 11/14/17 04:15 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: dud]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Originally Posted By dud
the whole sound of genos is more bright and crystal , maybe if you will change the eq of the tyrus in the mixer and in the edite mode ' you will get almost the same sound in the styles and patches.


Err, I'm not saying you're right or wrong I don't have enough time in the cockpit to comment. Frankieve would be the guy who could tell you since he plays in about 4 different bands and the T5 was his go to board, but it's now the Genos.

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#440874 - 11/14/17 07:40 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: Stephenm52]
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Gentleman:

I have the Tyros 5 (61) and also de Genos.....if you re-call, the word "Headroom".....that is one of the things Genos has a lot more over the T5.....also there is a great separation of each part on the sounds on the styles, and is so much clear in the Genos, not matter how much you may EQ or play with the volumes/balances on the T5, the Genos has a sound of it`s own.

The new Revo Drum Sets, new beautiful Pianos, new Acoustic Guitars (Dobro, Steel, etc), many, many new sounds, more and better DSPs, the list can go on.....the difference you can ONLY experience, is having both next to each other and then, is VERY obvious, I know the Genos is not for everyone, each one of us should have what YOU like, and WORKS for you....regardless of the brand or cost.

For me, is the Genos.....

One thing I notice when people mention the Genos price, what I have not seen been said, is that the Genos is at the same price of the Tyros 5 76


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/yamaha-tyros5-76-with-sk-aw-survival-kit/j16451000000000?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CjwKCAiAxarQBRAmEiwA6YcGKLR76agIgucjE2AcNxHMPYq4c_dtZ0jgg5BEnmpHrkgVfRHQ61sQsBoCqZ0QAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid^221957295827-device^c-plaid^323968728423-sku^J16451000000000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA

VS

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/...VhoCWtcQAvD_BwE


My 2 Cents.

Manuel
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#440877 - 11/15/17 06:46 AM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: mdorantes]
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Originally Posted By mdorantes
Gentleman:

I have the Tyros 5 (61) and also de Genos.....if you re-call, the word "Headroom".....that is one of the things Genos has a lot more over the T5.....also there is a great separation of each part on the sounds on the styles, and is so much clear in the Genos, not matter how much you may EQ or play with the volumes/balances on the T5, the Genos has a sound of it`s own.

The new Revo Drum Sets, new beautiful Pianos, new Acoustic Guitars (Dobro, Steel, etc), many, many new sounds, more and better DSPs, the list can go on.....the difference you can ONLY experience, is having both next to each other and then, is VERY obvious, I know the Genos is not for everyone, each one of us should have what YOU like, and WORKS for you....regardless of the brand or cost.

For me, is the Genos.....

One thing I notice when people mention the Genos price, what I have not seen been said, is that the Genos is at the same price of the Tyros 5 76


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/yamaha-tyros5-76-with-sk-aw-survival-kit/j16451000000000?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CjwKCAiAxarQBRAmEiwA6YcGKLR76agIgucjE2AcNxHMPYq4c_dtZ0jgg5BEnmpHrkgVfRHQ61sQsBoCqZ0QAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid^221957295827-device^c-plaid^323968728423-sku^J16451000000000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA

VS

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/...VhoCWtcQAvD_BwE


My 2 Cents.

Manuel


Is the price really the same...

Only in the US i guess..
Europe mainland we see a 10% raise compred to T5 at release

England however has a much higher price due to the Pound falling down London Bridge after the Brexit

But then, the US was allways paying to much for their Tyros 5, so i guess its fair that the price was not raised any more.



NEver was the Youtube floated with so many video's of a new keyboard as with the Genos. There must be a reason for this?
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#440881 - 11/15/17 09:53 AM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: notlos]
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Here in Norway Genos is lower priced than Tyros 5.

Both without any addons:
Tyros 5-76 | NOK 45.393,-
Genos | NOK 43.749,-

Currency today: US$1 = NOK 8,16 / €1 = NOK 9,59

Why? Don't ask me. same at several music dealers "offers".
Waiting to see 2nd hand T5 and T4 prices when Genos are in stock......
Also wonder a lot why they rised the T5 price before Genos was announced.
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#440882 - 11/15/17 09:58 AM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
jingleman Offline
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Registered: 08/02/05
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Loc: The Villages, FL, USA
The style demo is monoural. This is probably the best way to draw a comparison...but definitely makes for a lackluster demo.

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#440884 - 11/15/17 03:50 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: notlos]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Is the PA4X really that much cheaper to buy than Genos??
I'm thinking only a few hundred $$
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#440885 - 11/15/17 04:15 PM Re: Styles Genos vs Tyros [Re: notlos]
DonM Offline
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
MAAP is $1,500 less for PA4X76. You don't have to pay MAAP for either though.
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