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#441345 - 11/24/17 08:23 AM
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[Re: tony mads usa]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Okay, I get your not-so-subtle message and I'm not at all surprised at your responses to my post. For the record, I have no problem with the concept of Thanksgiving or the holiday itself (in fact, I applaud it). To be perfectly honest, it was the mention of the DATE (1619) that triggered a response in me. 1619 is a date that is embedded in the brains of most African-Americans (that attended schools where history was accurately taught). When that DATE is mentioned in the Black community, Thanksgiving is not the first thing that comes to mind. As much as we may want to ignore or block out this blight on our nation's history, it IS important and significant to a large portion of our fellow AMERICAN citizens, as it should be. So, snide comments and supportive emoticons aside, I, like most of my fellow African-Americans, celebrate this holiday like everyone else, with over-eating, over-drinking, family arguments, and car accidents, while preparing for that even bigger holiday, BLACK FRIDAY. BestBuy, here I come. Happy Thanksgiving.
chas
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#441363 - 11/24/17 01:52 PM
Re: OT: ...
[Re: tony mads usa]
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And good health to you, John. Tony started this thread with the best of intentions and I'm sorry that I allowed the mention of that DATE to trigger a 'negative' response. I had hoped to explain why. Obviously, no one cared why. We (Americans) have a history of avoiding some of the more unpleasant parts of our past, and I suppose that's understandable. But in the words of Churchill, "those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it". The ever-widening divisions that are so evident in this country at this time should be a clear warning for us to heed those words. If we truly believe in the spirit of THANKSGIVING, then we should be working full time to help bridge these divides. When that happens, I'll happily celebrate Thanksgiving 365 days a year.
Again, let me be perfectly clear; this was in NO WAY a snipe at Guitpic1, whose mention of the PBS (which I'm a fan of) special was purely innocent, I'm sure. Have a good day, folks.
chas
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#441410 - 11/25/17 01:40 PM
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[Re: tony mads usa]
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Actually, there were no native, North American tribes - they were migrants who crossed the land bridge that is now submerged beneath the Bearing Straits. Much of their DNA, according to all the history books I have read, is Northern Chinese and Mongolian. And, from what I recall, Spanish explorers brought the first African slaves to the US in 1526, which had nothing to do with tobacco crops or any other crop at the time. It wasn't until 1841 when Massachusetts legalized slavery, and they were the first colony to do so - not Virginia. My Thanksgiving Day was wonderful, my adult children arrived on time, my daughter and her roommate did all the cooking, but before dinner, we had a variety of Sushi, my son brought several bottles of great tasting wine, we sat on the deck and watched the wildlife pass by, which this time of year, consisted of American eagles, whitetail deer, wile turkeys, a pair of red foxes, and the usual assortment of small birds and squirrels. Today, I drove up US Route 1 to the marina to finish winterizing the boat. The weather is mild, temperature in the upper 50s, but the traffic was a nightmare. I guess a lot of families are either shopping the extended Black Friday shopping days, or just heading home and trying to get a jump on the normal Sunday traffic jams after a weekend holiday. Happy Thanksgiving everyone, Gary
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