2. Akai VIP 3.1 upgrade soon to be released. I just downloaded a VIP map for NI Massive with almost 45,000 patches. Talk about “Massive”!!!!!
I’ve been asking Akai to offer two simple features that will make VIP a killer app for VST live performance.
Lots of great tools out there that combine hardware and software.
I am very interested in number 1 Number 2 is actually a guitar stomp box, not for me i am follwing VIP for a very long time now... might be a perfect tool to combine with number 1
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I had been beta-testing the IOS version of Camelot Pro for some months. I don't think I am interested in the PC/Mac version yet as it is only a standalone, and not a VST plug-in. I am not ready to replace Gig Performer with anything else. As for the IOS version, even after the public release, the company still updates the beta version and lets me use it. Now, there is a similar app that seems even more powerful; KeyStage; here's a church musician giving a demo on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=g3ZSiJT3jmc
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Things move so quickly with IOS that AudioBus3 is old school, and now the big deal is AUv3. AudioBus3 is limited in comparison with AUv3. Both Camelot Pro and Key Stage can host multiple AUv3 apps. Watch this guy the author of Key Stage app giving a demo; all IOS sounds.
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#463862 - 12/28/1802:06 PMRe: Software and hardware integration
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Bachus
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Originally Posted By Torch
Things move so quickly with IOS that AudioBus3 is old school, and now the big deal is AUv3. AudioBus3 is limited in comparison with AUv3. Both Camelot Pro and Key Stage can host multiple AUv3 apps. Watch this guy the author of Key Stage app giving a demo; all IOS sounds.
I disagree with you, since audiobus was the first app to support AUv3 as well as EFX plugs.. and offcourse all the little midibus plugs and more..
Audiobus 3 is like the glue to connect everything, its the single reason i think the ipad is much more flexible then a pc or mac..
Keystage and soon also camelot pro can be used in combination with the audio and midi routing of audiobus.. where audiobus shines is that it does not only connect keys to sounds, but also connects hosts to both hosts, recorders, sounds and effects..
To me Keystage looks even more prommising then camelot pro for ipad.. But i think if you want to use the ipad both for keys (which keystage and camelot intend to do) as well as for backings (beatmaker, cubasis, gadget) you will need audiobus to integrate things as a whole...
Edited by Bachus (12/28/1802:15 PM)
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#463876 - 12/29/1808:41 AMRe: Software and hardware integration
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Torch, i bought the app and really like it.. Very very promissing.. did you know you can import cubase .ins files..
The app is incredible for hardware comtroll as core of a setup.. But in its current form misses audio capabillities and virtual midi ports.. In this example, they show how to use midiflow and AUM apps to do this.. Audiobus combines these 2 into a single app, and you can even use midiflow and AUM as well as keystage inside Audiobus.
The midi routing from keystage for hardware is incredible.. It can replace V-console when adding an extra keyboard to Genos or any other arranger (Altough only yamaha instruments have enough exta voices for this)
You just route the ext keyboard to song parts 1 to 8(when using style only) and you have 8 genos sounds and effects available for your extra key.. or with an external midi interface connected to ipad, route the midi to you mac/pc/vst’s
You can also load lyrics and pdf/score/notes into the app.. Yes, seems like this is a very promissing app..
Edited by Bachus (12/29/1808:42 AM)
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I am glad to hear you like KeyStage. It's amazing what you can do with a $20 app. I have been running both Camelot Pro and KeyStage. Pros and cons as usual. I like how you can so much with both without going through a 3rd bridge app like Audiobus3. For now I like Auv3 (supported by Camelot Pro) more than IAA (supported by KeyStage). IAA a built-in feature of IOS is obviously more convenient than a 3rd party bridge app like Audiobus 3. There's so much going on so fast in the IOS world like you said about AUM. There is AudioShare and scores of other tools. Speaking of MIDIflow, that eliminated a number of hardware devices for me. It can do some complex midi acrobatic work so easily just because it is software.
Forgot to ask you; you said, "did you know you can import cubase .ins files.." I don't use Cubase, but by .ins files, you mean instrument definition files started by Cakewalk?
Edited by Torch (12/30/1810:21 PM)
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#463966 - 12/31/1802:42 AMRe: Software and hardware integration
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Bachus
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Originally Posted By Torch
Bachus,
I am glad to hear you like KeyStage. It's amazing what you can do with a $20 app. I have been running both Camelot Pro and KeyStage. Pros and cons as usual. I like how you can so much with both without going through a 3rd bridge app like Audiobus3. For now I like Auv3 (supported by Camelot Pro) more than IAA (supported by KeyStage). IAA a built-in feature of IOS is obviously more convenient than a 3rd party bridge app like Audiobus 3. There's so much going on so fast in the IOS world like you said about AUM. There is AudioShare and scores of other tools. Speaking of MIDIflow, that eliminated a number of hardware devices for me. It can do some complex midi acrobatic work so easily just because it is software.
Forgot to ask you; you said, "did you know you can import cubase .ins files.." I don't use Cubase, but by .ins files, you mean instrument definition files started by Cakewalk?
I said .ins but thats indeed the filsort cakewalk uses It should have said cubase patch scripts, thats the variant cubase uses..
I havent tried tis out yet myself.. I plan using keystage as a hard routing.. mimmicking v-console..
Also AUM is really incredible.. for loading ipad sounds.. I will use these 3 (audiobus, aum, keystage) as the backbone of my new setup.
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