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#445798 - 02/02/18 12:07 PM Day two Genos
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Some of you have let me know you want me to continue my babble...er thoughts on Genos. šŸ˜‹

First off, I havenā€™t decided yet whether or not Iā€™ll keep it. Biggest issue for me is forking out the $$$. That said, current prices Iā€™ve found on the Genos are close to the Korg 4X 76 Key.

Spent about four hours so far today with it...mostly with the Bose S1. I also hooked up my Yamaha DXR10 and then my SSV.3. All three PAā€™s sounded good to me..my master EQ was flat. My favorite is still the Bose.

Soundwise, Iā€™ve come to believe Genos has the edge over my 4X...vocals/sounds especially and Genos styles are well done...very alive much more so than my S970 and on par with the 4X.

Build quality considering sliders, knobs and keybed...to me the 4X seems a bit better built.

I like the Genos navigation system...well thought out...would work well for live play for me.

By the way, I found those piano styles(Bernie maybe posted?) for S970 and tried them on Genos. Fun...šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

Iā€™m still in the honeymoon phase with Genos but I think if I was choosing a 76 key today between 4X and Genos...I think I would choose Genos. That said, I already have the 4X...great keyboard and buying the Genos would mean a bit of a $$$ committment for me...still might do it. šŸ¤”

If you all get tired of these reflections...just donā€™t respond and Iā€™ll keep my thoughts to myself. šŸ˜Š





Edited by guitpic1 (02/02/18 12:08 PM)
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#445800 - 02/02/18 12:16 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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By the way, my wife listened to me play Genos/Bose S1 for a while last night.

She is my occasional gigging partner and has gigged with me using S970, Tyros4, and PA 4X.

She listened for a while and said ā€œThatā€™s a great sounding systemā€. That was quite an endorsement as usually she would say something about it like thatā€™s nice but I like your other system as well.

Interesting.


Edited by guitpic1 (02/02/18 12:33 PM)
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#445802 - 02/02/18 12:35 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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#445810 - 02/02/18 01:33 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Hi Guitpic,
If you adjust the EQ a little it comes even more alive smile
There are also some fun presets to try out in the Master EQ/Comp section.
Glad you're having fun.
Eric
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#445811 - 02/02/18 01:48 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Keep babbling(your words), it is very enlightening to all of us, i'm sure.
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#445897 - 02/04/18 12:49 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Guitpic1. Keep the comments coming. Ahem................speaking of wives. For the most part my wife doesnā€™t know one arranger for the other all she knows is I keep buying them then selling others. When I brought the Genos home from Frankieveā€™s store and she saw me unbox it. She replied, ā€œ I donā€™t get it, it looks just like the Korg you have already have.ā€

About an hour later after setting up a couple of registrations I played it thru the Maui LD5 and she then said, ā€œwow this is the best sounding one yet.ā€

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#445898 - 02/04/18 12:59 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: Stephenm52]
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I agree also, please keep on telling us the goods and the bads........
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#445900 - 02/04/18 01:41 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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not much left to talk about arranger these days anyway.....unlike years ago.

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#445902 - 02/04/18 02:13 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Iā€™m loading my Genos with my gig sets...a sign Iā€™m getting closer to saying ā€œI Do!ā€
šŸ˜Š

Spent about four hours on the Genos today...very enjoyable...love the 76 Keys.

More tomorrow.
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#445905 - 02/04/18 04:49 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
.....very enjoyable...love the 76 Keys.


Ditto! smile

Got a couple of hours exploring G this morning, and some more time this evening.
The 'step up' from T4 is not just a little, it's huge, 15 more keys + big touchscreen man! wink laugh
Seriously, not a dull moment so far.
The big problem is that I get taken away when play the reworked and new styles and sounds,
so time flies without been much into the deep of it yet.

No 'bugs' in sight so far, and the problems to download free stuff from Yam-site are solved,
except from the promissed free upgrade of packs already bought for other T / PSR models.
Support staff is quick to respond, so it will probably be sorted out as well.

But, I think there is a drawback compared to T4 when install the style/soundpack addons.
At T4 we could install one at the time without lose others as long as there was space in the expanded memory.
Now you have to install everything already done + the new addons each time you have any new pack to add.
The memory / flash is formatted to empty each time before install starts.
Expansion Manager Software is OK, but it's very time consuming when pack size grows.
Oh well, when added extras we want, I guess it's no big deal.

The OS navigation and filestrukture is different, but easy to learn and adapt as soon as you
forget to try push buttons that's not at the surface anymore. laugh

So far, so good........ I think. wink
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#445966 - 02/05/18 07:31 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Please keep the comments coming! I know we all appreciate the reports!

Only one Bose S1 Pro... or in stereo? Comparable to the DXR10?!?
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#445982 - 02/06/18 06:33 AM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Johnathan did you take the GENOS Plunge yet?....or?

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#445983 - 02/06/18 06:40 AM Re: Day two Genos [Re: Stephenm52]
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Originally Posted By Stephenm52
Guitpic1. Keep the comments coming. Ahem................speaking of wives. For the most part my wife doesnā€™t know one arranger for the other all she knows is I keep buying them then selling others. When I brought the Genos home from Frankieveā€™s store and she saw me unbox it. She replied, ā€œ I donā€™t get it, it looks just like the Korg you have already have.ā€





Now that is funny! Sounds like my wife - how many keyboards do you need?
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#445984 - 02/06/18 06:45 AM Re: Day two Genos [Re: Stephenm52]
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Originally Posted By Stephenm52
Guitpic1. Keep the comments coming. Ahem................speaking of wives. For the most part my wife doesnā€™t know one arranger for the other all she knows is I keep buying them then selling others. When I brought the Genos home from Frankieveā€™s store and she saw me unbox it. She replied, ā€œ I donā€™t get it, it looks just like the Korg you have already have.ā€

About an hour later after setting up a couple of registrations I played it thru the Maui LD5 and she then said, ā€œwow this is the best sounding one yet.ā€



Steve you are certainlythe KING of the castle!! rotfl


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#446043 - 02/06/18 08:12 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Johnathan did you take the GENOS Plunge yet?....or?


Not yet, Dnj! I have an investor (my awesome mother-in-law) and I am working a few possibilities through my old contacts. Just trying to get my hands on one without buying to work it through its paces!! I will have news soon.

If it is the right keyboard, I will sell the Pa4X... But if what I am planning works, I will keep the Pa4X with the Genos.
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#446044 - 02/06/18 08:15 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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If you get one be patient new things in the works update coming soon

Especially in song play mode
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#446047 - 02/06/18 09:13 PM Re: Day two Genos [Re: shueymusic]
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Originally Posted By shueymusic
Originally Posted By Dnj
Johnathan did you take the GENOS Plunge yet?....or?


Not yet, Dnj! I have an investor (my awesome mother-in-law) and I am working a few possibilities through my old contacts. Just trying to get my hands on one without buying to work it through its paces!! I will have news soon.

If it is the right keyboard, I will sell the Pa4X... But if what I am planning works, I will keep the Pa4X with the Genos.


Good luck John when you get GENOS looking forward to your review and thoughts etc.....

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#446051 - 02/07/18 02:05 AM Re: Day two Genos [Re: shueymusic]
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Originally Posted By shueymusic
Please keep the comments coming! I know we all appreciate the reports!

Only one Bose S1 Pro... or in stereo? Comparable to the DXR10?!?


Hello,

Only one S1 Pro at this point. Iā€™m using it as a monitor for the Genos and I havenā€™t used it at a gig yet.

The S1 puts out a lot of sound for its size...lots of bass...often more than I need. The DXR10 has a bit bigger bass sound.

Thing is, until I use these in gigs, itā€™s going to be hard to compare.

Weight of course is huge between the two.


Edited by guitpic1 (02/07/18 02:09 AM)
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#446078 - 02/07/18 09:13 AM Re: Day two Genos [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Originally Posted By shueymusic
Please keep the comments coming! I know we all appreciate the reports!

Only one Bose S1 Pro... or in stereo? Comparable to the DXR10?!?


Hello,

Only one S1 Pro at this point. Iā€™m using it as a monitor for the Genos and I havenā€™t used it at a gig yet.

The S1 puts out a lot of sound for its size...lots of bass...often more than I need. The DXR10 has a bit bigger bass sound.

Thing is, until I use these in gigs, itā€™s going to be hard to compare.

Weight of course is huge between the two.


I have the TC Helicon 150fx. It works as a monitor when we place the DXR10s in front of us. If we have room... we set our speakers behind us so we can hear what the audience hears. If it is too loud for us, we know itā€™s too loud for them. I can see a lot of uses for the Bose... personal monitor... musical rehearsals... relay for life walks... church monitors...

Also, having a backpack option and the battery option gives it use in even more situations... playing in schools (for my wife the librarian!)

The S1Pro will be a great replacement for my Yamaha MSR-100 speakers... at more than double the price!!
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