Donny, when was the last time you sang through a Tyros5, PA4X or Genos. Now, I have now used the Genos, yet, but I will this spring. However, I have used the T5 and PA4X and they sounded and worked as well as any outboard vocal processor I have used. Of course, I don't use midi files, so I cannot attest to that aspect. I can hear quality, and the quality provided by today's arranger keyboard onboard vocal processors is top notch.

Gary

By tracking, I assume you are talking about midi files. If you are referring to tracking using the harmonizer, well, there was a problem with the earlier PSR models, but not on any tyros since the T4.

As for the vocal quality, there wasn't a hill of beans difference when they were properly tuned, at least that was my experience. I Know you had an S970 and a PA4X, but from what you had posted in the past, I didn't think you ever sang through them and used your outboard vocal processors exclusively.

Gary

Something I never experienced, Donny, but then again, I used a headset mic, which would preclude that from happening. Never tried it with the handheld, but I will later today using the S-950 and report back. I just took a morphine tablet for my intense back pain, so singing right now, and hearing properly, are out of the question. Hard to do when you are stoned.

Good luck,

Gary

I am with Donny on this one. Sort of
Even though the VH2 in my Genos is great it is not quit in the same league as my VoiceLive3.
Let me explain.
Like Donny I sing a little more with power at times.
Now all VH will distort if you sing with too much power.
However the main thing I noticed when I tried the two unites side by side was another tracking issue with the Genos.
Holding just a chord down and singing through the VH2 without any accompaniment the harmony of the VH2 was a bit all over the place. It did not stay with me. It kind of jumped a bit.
The sound was great. don't get me wrong.
The VoiceLive3 stays with me no matter what I do.
I surely can make the VH2 work and it is very usable, however I would have to adjust my singing a bit.
With the VoiceLive3 no adjustment needed.
Again the issue sounds bigger than it actually is.
I was impressed with the improvement of the Genos, but prefer my VL3.
Hope this clears it up a bit.
Eric

here listen to Dave perform A Nightingale Sang #4
https://www.boydsongs.com/music

I did a bit of testing last night with the VH2 and discovered a few things. First and foremost, you must exercise complete vocal control. Vocal harmony is not meant for a power singer who uses the proximity effect. This caused the VH to wander all over the place, even using my TC Helicon Harmony-M. While the Harmony-M handled this a bit better, when I maintained the mic distance and exercised vocal control, keeping the levels fairly clean and constant, both the VH2 and TC Helicon tracked perfectly.

Unfortunately, I didn't record the data, mainly because I cannot sing as well as I could just two years ago when my health forced me to retire. To me, this is quite disconcerting as I depended heavily upon my vocals during my performances. I loved it when the ladies, young and old, told me how much they loved my voice, then gave me a big hug and kiss. Those were the days, my friends.

All the best,

Gary

No way to fake it Zuki either your a singer or your not....VH is an art form in itself too many have no clue how to sing with it or when to utilize correctly also......
I learned from the master himself UNCLE DAVE!

here listen to Dave perform A Nightingale Sang #4

https://www.boydsongs.com/music

Well, that explains it. I guess I suck I sing well, the VH does not

Donny, never considered pairing with a female harmony voice - just too hokey.
Gary

No, Tony. A live female vocalist is a true bonus. What we were discussing is using a female, digital, vocal harmony effect using either the keyboard's onboard vocal harmonizer or an outboard system. I have had my daughter sing with me a couple times - my audiences loved her, and I loved it when she was on stage with me.
All the best,
Gary

Gary ever think about playing our as a double with a girl singer instead etc..

No, Tony. A live female vocalist is a true bonus. What we were discussing is using a female, digital, vocal harmony effect using either the keyboard's onboard vocal harmonizer or an outboard system. I have had my daughter sing with me a couple times - my audiences loved her, and I loved it when she was on stage with me.

All the best,

Gary