I got the bug.....Love the Arranger for live and songwriting. I feel once I am ready for Studio work the sounds are limited.....

Thoughts anyone?

Hi Steve,

Liked your site and songs. Did you arrange these all and are these your originals too? Very nice. Thanks for sharing.

Steve...sounds great. Are all backing instruments from pa? Sounds like guitars are played over the top. Nice pedal steel. Recorded at home?

Nice job!

jingleman

I don’t know what a synth could add to your existing arsenal. Maybe vsti’s ala EastWest could add some variation for you.

Hey guys, I appreciate the comments. I guess this thread is going a different direction .... I wrote all the songs and sang on them... I have a producer I have worked with in Nashville for years on my Country tunes, those are live players.

I am wondering about combining the Kronos with the PA 4 X for studio work at home.

Bachus would be a good resource as he has both the pa4x and Kronos. If your looking for more synth type timbre’s...the Kronos is hard to beat. (IMHO)

jingleman

Its an incredible combination..
The kronos is still the most powerfull sound engine in hardware
You can layer and split up to 16 sounds
Incredible piano, synth, cinematic, organ, ep’s ..
And Karma and many other tools on top of that..
Next to that with a single button(ext), you can choose it to be a full master controller
Comtrolling VST’s.. and more on a laptop.

Where it comes to sound design and and comtroll, its the perfect asset to any studio
If you add the pa4x which is the perfect tool for playing backings (midi/audio/styles)
You have the best of all worlds..

So is it perfect?
No, because there is no simple integration between kronos and pa4x
You have to preprogram everything.. nothing works out of the box..
But if you do so, its as close as you can come to perfect right now..

The pa4x and the Kronos enhance eachother..
The 88 keybed of my kronos is very allround..
Allowing for both piano, organ and synth solo’s
I love the keybed a lot..
Often i just use the keybed to play the pa4x..arranger amd sounds

Other times i play piano parts on the kronos, or organ right and bass left.. while using the arranger of the pa4x on top..

If there are any more specific questions
I will galdly answer them.

It’s not clear Steve whether you are doing the studio work at home to replace using your producer and real musicians or if it’s just for personal consumption .

If you are just laying g down tracks for your producer to get a good idea of what you are aiming at in terms of your songs thst will then be played by session musicians , then the pa4x is really all you need as any serious mastering , mixing etc will be done by the producer , studio engineer etc .

If it’s just for home consumption and you have the desire and money then go for it with this caution :

If you are predominantly composing music for the country / Nashville type sounding industry , you will get virtually no benefit from the Kronos in terms of better sounds for that genre . The pa4x beats the Kronos on virtually all natural accoustic sounds except perhaps some of the pianos and electric pianos but in the mix you won’t hear that . The Kronos does not have guitar mode or the tricks and articulations to make natural instruments sounds realistic .

You would be spending money that would in fact give you minimal additional utility.

Obviously if you just want to experiment with very many sounds and are into sound creation and sculpting then the Kronos is your guy .

Just my opinion

I have to disagree with you on this... while Kronos does not have automatic DNC and you have to switch articulations by hand, the Kronos espescially in a studio can have some awesome acoustic instruments.. (even more so of you invest in some of the expansion packs) .. where it comes to to orchestral sounds.. the kronos by default blows my pa4x dead out of the water...

For realistic guitars and guitar strumming there are several specific Karma modes..so again your statement is jot entirely true, you can make very very realistic guitar tracks, but... thye do require more work then on the pa4x.

Again, archieving things on the Kronos takes more time then on the pa4x, a lot more time, but the results for any sound can be stellar..which includes all the country sounds one could immagine.

Where it comes to sound design on the kronos, its so deep that after all this time, as a casual musicians (2 hours a day) i still only have touched the surface.

I also do Contemporary worship and contemporary styles of music along with the Country...I believe the Karma and the 700 additional drum programs on the Kronos will keep the creative juices going.

Personally I find the instrument choices on the PA4X somewhat limited. Though I would never get rid of the Arranger, contemporary styles are virtually non-existent. Style-wise I believe it is important to stay relevant & am always evolving

Gonna make a trip to GC and play it to feel if I want weighted or the LS...

Yes, I make good money......History tells me, once I got the bug, there is only one way to satisfy it.....And I ALWAYS buy the best gear I afford....

I know, I am hopeless.......

That’s always best Steve . Try before you buy . Best of luck