The Ketron Audya sounds just as good as any arranger out there today eg:.. KORG, Yamaha, etc,.......what has really changed in 10 years...?

Aside from my sex drive, I'd say prices for keyboards has actually gone down. My KeyB Duo MK111 cost about 1k more than a new legend (not the 'Live'). Also, orchestral sounds (but not analog synth sounds) and acoustic instrument sounds (guitar, etc.) have gotten better, especially on the MOTL arrangers. Vocal processors marginally improved. In fact, a capable performer could put on a totally acceptable performance with 10 yr. old arrangers (think G70, Audya, etc.). In my opinion, the improvements made are more important to the performer than to the audience. JMO.

chas

Double Ditto Chas...

Size and weight..keyboards down, mine up..

Memory capacity...keyboards up, mine down...

So what's the better investment these days, a Genos or a couple bottles of blue pills?

Uh oh! I think I see magnetic north coming up in the rear-view mirror .

chas

MOST newer arrangers have better operating systems, lighter weight, better effects, better styles. Most have touch screens, although the G70 had one years ago. There is more.

I agree with DonM, plus one additional item - they sound fantastic!

Gary

"what has really changed in 10 years...?"

ME, John C.

Major keyboard innovations over the last decade...

- touchscreens
- yamaha’s ensemble voices
- huge dsp improvements
- weight
- korgs midi to style converter
- knobs.
- arpeggiators
- ketrons launch pad
- sample memmory hugely improved
- more styles and sounds for todays music
- customers grew 10 years older
- many smaller conviememt things have been added.
- yamaha made 76 the default size for high end arrangera
- casio showed us what features the arranger for the youth should have
- roland stepped back from the high end arranger podium
- korgs dnc technollogy mirrors Yamaha’s

I think. Quite a lot has happened..

and the players are 10 years older

I.

What has really changed in 10 years??

Technology have changed quite a lot, my skin is not as smooth and flexible as before....
... and still not any progress regarding make a end of all disasters and wars happening around the world.

You are all missing the point in that let's take the Audya for example as shown in the demo is more then capable of sounding fantastic and in many ways better or on par then anything out today...
yes there are improvements thru the years not much but is there really anything mind blowing? sound and style wise?.......what Chas said in his post above is spot on...then ask yourself what has changed with me AS A PLAYER in the last 10 years?

Well, thats my biggest complaint about the music industry, yamaha korg and roland havent addapted to the latest technollogy... they are mostly still using stuff developed more then a decade ago...

If anyone would build a workstation based on the latest arm processor, it would be much much faster then anything on the market today including my kronos... and then we dont even talk about the latest intel or amd processors...

Since performance of instruments is a linear with processing power and memmory ... guess why there are so few changes..

I don't have any soundbites ten years apart, but I hope I've improved in that time.

The tyros 2 I inherited and currently use sounds great to me. Some sounds I prefer from others, like saxes and strings from ketron. Styles are more than sufficient. I could continue to use it the way it is , but..

It is larger and heavier than today's boards. I would hope Yamaha and others current offerings have less steps to go through to change and save settings. Four or five steps to save a voice or other change in a registration is too many. Making global changes like midi channel profile settings shouldn't return to default settings after powering down. I welcomed Korgs improvement in this from the pa500 to pa600 models when I had them. Has Yamaha streamlined this in 10 years? Improved , streamlined navigation are welcome and sought after changes for me. Needing to find work arounds for an older board makes me wonder If common sense changes have taken place by now..

Changing as a player, I have less patience than I used to for complicated menus as I get older. I know some guys love to have dozens of sub menus to go into to adjust minutiae. I don't personally need to alter every parameter known to man. Most view the availability to do this as advances but adding more isn't always improvement.