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#456303 - 08/16/18 06:56 PM If I was to buy any keyboard today
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	This is my top list of keyboards I would want to buy in this order... If they could be found. I have been fortunate to play each one … 1 Roland G70 2 Roland BK9 3 Roland EA7 4 Ketron SD9 5 Korg PA4x76 The Genos is a contender in this list, but I don't know where. After a hands on, and a much lower price... it is possible.. I am pretty sure it would not beat my 1 and 2... but maybe the others.. I like the sounds and features of the 3 Roland's.. I like the sound and touchscreen on the Ketron SD9..Only played the SD7. I like the features on the Korg PA4x76.. Other than arrangers I have considered the Roland FA07, for sampling, sequencing, studio sets and Super Natural editing.. It can also download most Roland libraries..(Axial). Reasonble price. The Roland Integra7 is also high on my wish lists.. Many features and all the Roland library.. Considered the Kronos, but determined the sounds over all are not to my liken.. Not bad , just don't do it for me.. especially at such a high price tag.. Any and all comments are welcomed.. The FA07 and Itegra7 are both street price $1,500...New. Edited by Fran Carango (08/16/18 06:58 PM) _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#456310 - 08/16/18 08:33 PM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
Nick G Senior Member Registered: 11/16/05 Posts: 1115 Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia	Fran I would say the G70 MIDI'd to the Integra 7 for the additional sounds would be killer!! I know you dont like your Yammys but have you seriously tried a Motif XS or XF? My Motif XS is irreplaceable! And you can get them fairly cheap nowadays ($1500.00 AUD) _________________________ Roland G70 / Roland BK9 / Roland GW-8L / Roland Fantom O6 / Yamaha Motif XS / Technics KN6500
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#456311 - 08/16/18 10:14 PM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
SAM CA Member Registered: 06/24/18 Posts: 151 Loc: Los Angeles	It's been years since I even visited Roland's arranger section of their website. It didn't look all that impressive. Which one is their most current flagship arranger? E-A7? I am definitely curious about the SD-9 and Genos. I've owned multiple Yamaha workstations but never an arranger.
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#456313 - 08/16/18 11:24 PM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
salsaman Member Registered: 04/07/08 Posts: 175 Loc: Port Angeles, WA., USA	I have the musical good fortune of currently owning all six of these marvelous keyboards. It simply doesn't get any better than this. _________________________ Musician's Theory of Relativity: E=Fb
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#456319 - 08/17/18 05:09 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
tassiespirit Member Registered: 01/25/08 Posts: 554 Loc: Devonport, Tasmania, Australia	Originally Posted By Fran Carango This is my top list of keyboards I would want to buy in this order... If they could be found. I have been fortunate to play each one … 1 Roland G70 2 Roland BK9 3 Roland EA7 4 Ketron SD9 5 Korg PA4x76 The Genos is a contender in this list, but I don't know where. After a hands on, and a much lower price... it is possible.. I am pretty sure it would not beat my 1 and 2... but maybe the others.. I like the sounds and features of the 3 Roland's.. I like the sound and touchscreen on the Ketron SD9..Only played the SD7. I like the features on the Korg PA4x76.. Other than arrangers I have considered the Roland FA07, for sampling, sequencing, studio sets and Super Natural editing.. It can also download most Roland libraries..(Axial). Reasonble price. The Roland Integra7 is also high on my wish lists.. Many features and all the Roland library.. Considered the Kronos, but determined the sounds over all are not to my liken.. Not bad , just don't do it for me.. especially at such a high price tag.. Any and all comments are welcomed.. The FA07 and Itegra7 are both street price $1,500...New. A g 70 ver 3 is so hard to find these days, and they weren't lite weight either. Allan _________________________ The problem is not the problem...The problem is your attitude to the problem.
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#456320 - 08/17/18 05:26 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: tassiespirit]
Fran Carango Senior Member Registered: 05/26/99 Posts: 9673 Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA	Allan, I found one in my studio The 46 pound G70 stays put in my studio now, while I travel with the 20 pound BK9 _________________________ www.francarango.com
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#456322 - 08/17/18 05:27 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	How do you think anything mentioned stands up to the Yamaha GENOS? That said if I was still playing out I would buy a Yamaha Genos... but for now S970 is more then enough to keep me busy at home. Edited by Dnj (08/17/18 06:04 AM)
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#456329 - 08/17/18 07:40 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
W Tracy Parnell Member Registered: 08/22/06 Posts: 766 Loc: NY	I think the Genos sounds fantastic on the demos I have heard. And Yamaha have addressed a couple of issues with the revo drums and the playlist. But it is just too expensive for many people, myself included. And for that kind of money, you should get top of the line harmony which it does not have. I would stick with the 970. Nobody asked but best bang for buck if you don't need harmony-used E-A7. If you want harmony a used PA900 which is what I have or a PA1000.
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#456330 - 08/17/18 07:44 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
Bill Lewis Senior Member Registered: 11/12/08 Posts: 2445 Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA	I'd love to try out a Genos, Korg PA4X, or a Kenton but even if I did I can't justify the prices at this point. Just to learn what they're about and do they really sound as fantastic as owners say. My BK9's do it all and more for my needs. And easy to move. _________________________ Bill in SC --- Roland BK9 (2) Roland BK7M, Roland PK5 Pedals, Roland FP90, Roland CM30 (2), JBL Eon Ones (2) JBL 610 Monitor, Behringer Sub, EV mics, Apple iPad (2) Behringer DJ mixer
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#456337 - 08/17/18 08:00 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
travlin'easy Senior Member Registered: 12/08/02 Posts: 15576 Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA	No question in my mind, I would have a Genos if I were still working. I'm very content with my PSR-S950 at home at this time. Gary _________________________ PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff! K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#456338 - 08/17/18 08:21 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Dnj]
Uncle Dave Senior Member Registered: 12/01/99 Posts: 12800 Loc: Penn Yan, NY	Originally Posted By Dnj How do you think anything mentioned stands up to the Yamaha GENOS? He's not comparing any of them to the Genos, because like you and me, he hasn't even played one. There's no way to judge until you actually put hands on it. Demos are full of smoke and mirrors, and some of my favorite products have had dreadful demos. You gotta touch 'em before you can make such a bold comment. _________________________ No longer monitoring this forum. Please visit www.daveboydmusic.com for contact info
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#456342 - 08/17/18 08:26 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
musicforyourday Member Registered: 09/30/10 Posts: 733 Loc: So California, USA	here is my List I have Owned them all 1. Genos 2 T5 3 T4 4 G70 5 S970 Now the G70 could be right up at the top for it time it was hand down the best but for sound weight and size Genos wins by far BK9 I was not a fan of at all IF THEY CAN FIX THE SONG MODE Genos will be perfact _________________________ Genos, PSR S970, Fender Tele Amercian Deluxe Cherry sunburst , Cubase Pro 8 ,Yamaha A3M Acoustric ,Taylor 814, Ibenez Artcore Custom Tascam DP 32 Yamaha DXR 10, QSC K-12, K 12 Sub K 8 Sinn 945 2 Fender Expo line units .
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#456343 - 08/17/18 08:32 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Originally Posted By Uncle Dave Originally Posted By Dnj How do you think anything mentioned stands up to the Yamaha GENOS? He's not comparing any of them to the Genos, because like you and me, he hasn't even played one. There's no way to judge until you actually put hands on it. Demos are full of smoke and mirrors, and some of my favorite products have had dreadful demos. You gotta touch 'em before you can make such a bold comment. That said dave some on the list Fran hasn't touched either ....and after all is said and done what's the difference when you personally have to make any keyboard YOUR OWN to sound they way you like...and why are we always doing the crazy which is best routines year after year..just sayin'?....it's getting kind of old isn't it... just buy play whatever you like no body cares but the player himself. Whew!!! now I need a smoothie..
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#456344 - 08/17/18 08:34 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: musicforyourday]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Originally Posted By musicforyourday here is my List IF THEY CAN FIX THE SONG MODE Genos will be perfact Whats wrong with the song mode Ron? if anything won't they fix with OS an update or better yet Genos 2 soon?
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#456345 - 08/17/18 08:35 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: musicforyourday]
W Tracy Parnell Member Registered: 08/22/06 Posts: 766 Loc: NY	Originally Posted By musicforyourday here is my List I have Owned them all 1. Genos 2 T5 3 T4 4 G70 5 S970 Now the G70 could be right up at the top for it time it was hand down the best but for sound weight and size Genos wins by far BK9 I was not a fan of at all IF THEY CAN FIX THE SONG MODE Genos will be perfact Curious-what didn't you like about the BK9?
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#456352 - 08/17/18 09:23 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
musicforyourday Member Registered: 09/30/10 Posts: 733 Loc: So California, USA	sound seems thin too me dual window too small multi windows to get to edit it just felt down graded too me i felt the piano sounds just too thin it was not for me . G70 much better in my oppinion but many really like it that is why there is 31 flavors of Ice Cream _________________________ Genos, PSR S970, Fender Tele Amercian Deluxe Cherry sunburst , Cubase Pro 8 ,Yamaha A3M Acoustric ,Taylor 814, Ibenez Artcore Custom Tascam DP 32 Yamaha DXR 10, QSC K-12, K 12 Sub K 8 Sinn 945 2 Fender Expo line units .
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#456353 - 08/17/18 09:24 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
musicforyourday Member Registered: 09/30/10 Posts: 733 Loc: So California, USA	none of any compaire to Genos Anyway _________________________ Genos, PSR S970, Fender Tele Amercian Deluxe Cherry sunburst , Cubase Pro 8 ,Yamaha A3M Acoustric ,Taylor 814, Ibenez Artcore Custom Tascam DP 32 Yamaha DXR 10, QSC K-12, K 12 Sub K 8 Sinn 945 2 Fender Expo line units .
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#456355 - 08/17/18 09:28 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
DonM Senior Member Registered: 06/25/99 Posts: 16735 Loc: Benton, LA, USA	I played Genos for several hours. Wouldn't trade it even for my PA4X. Roland seems to be mostly history these days as far as totl. Just my opinion, as is everyone else's list. _________________________ DonM
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#456359 - 08/17/18 09:37 AM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
musicforyourday Member Registered: 09/30/10 Posts: 733 Loc: So California, USA	for what I do Genos is the best but all units are great i remember when we did not have any it was a different World then _________________________ Genos, PSR S970, Fender Tele Amercian Deluxe Cherry sunburst , Cubase Pro 8 ,Yamaha A3M Acoustric ,Taylor 814, Ibenez Artcore Custom Tascam DP 32 Yamaha DXR 10, QSC K-12, K 12 Sub K 8 Sinn 945 2 Fender Expo line units .
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#456372 - 08/17/18 02:16 PM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
Gunnar Jonny Senior Member Registered: 04/01/01 Posts: 4381 Loc: Norway	1. Genos / Korg PA4X-76 2.- 3.- If win any giga lottery I'll add: .. Wersi OAX 1 Professional Keyboard or Wersi Sonic 800 LS Organ if find space to place it. _________________________ Cheers 🥂 GJ _______________________________________________ "Success is not counted by how high you have climbed but by how many you brought with you." (Wil Rose)
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#456405 - 08/17/18 10:44 PM Re: If I was to buy any keyboard today [Re: Fran Carango]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	1. Kronos 2 2. Yamaha montage 3 Nord stage 3 4 Roland RD2000 5 Kawai MP11 The thing is, one keyboard only, that would mean 88 keys... I would combine it with the Ketron SD90...(which is technically not a keyboard) If they would ever release 88 key versions of todays arrangers.. 1. Genos 2. PA4x 3. Ketron SD90 4. CVP 809 (not buying a 3 year old cvp 709) 5. Roland ... whatver 88 key arranger they release.. Point is, i want to cut back to a single keyboard setup... 88 key... And i can’t live witouth high end arranger features... My macbook would complete my setup... Edited by Bachus (08/17/18 10:48 PM) _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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