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#456745 - 08/24/18 06:44 AM For you 88 KEY Lovers..
Dnj Offline
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aKRWg5O2tE





What's not to like if you into piano 88 keys.. keys?

just add a Ketron SD90 etc and your on your way.. headphone




Edited by Dnj (08/24/18 07:41 AM)

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#456768 - 08/24/18 10:13 AM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Dnj]
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This is just a decent stage piano...
The piano parts and EP sound nice..
but thats about what it has to offer..

When you look at the competition for 88 stage instruments..
It has to compete with
-Roland RD200
-KAwai MP11/MP7
-Korg Grand stage
-Nord Piano 4
-Yamaha CP4
i still don't see what dexibell has to offer that the other instruments can't do

And if you don't look at the price..
There is even more grand competition
-Korg Kronos
-Yamaha Montage
-Nord stage 3
-Kurzweil Forte

I think from all the above, the dexibell altough being a great instrument is still my least favorite
There is so much more choice in the 88 keyboard market then in the arranger market
The only thing missing in the "high end" 88 keyboard market is a keyboard with high end arranger capabilities..
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#457041 - 08/28/18 02:07 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Bachus]
SAM CA Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus
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-Roland RD200

-Korg Grand stage



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I narrowed down my search to these two for a new stage piano. The key bed is the most important factor for me. Any thoughts?

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#457042 - 08/28/18 02:54 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: SAM CA]
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Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Bachus
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-Roland RD200

-Korg Grand stage



...


I narrowed down my search to these two for a new stage piano. The key bed is the most important factor for me. Any thoughts?



If you don't need a full blown workstation the Roland FP90 has the same keybed as the 2000 . Just a stage piano but a very good one. Good variety of sounds and great onboard speakers.
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#457051 - 08/28/18 06:38 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Bill Lewis]
SAM CA Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Bachus
...

-Roland RD200

-Korg Grand stage



...


I narrowed down my search to these two for a new stage piano. The key bed is the most important factor for me. Any thoughts?



If you don't need a full blown workstation the Roland FP90 has the same keybed as the 2000 . Just a stage piano but a very good one. Good variety of sounds and great onboard speakers.


Yeah, I really don't need a full blown workstation, as I have too many of those already.

So FP90 has the same exact keybed as the 2000. Also I just found out Korg D1 has the same RH3 keybed as the Grandstage. I think that would be the same as Kronos 88.

I can read the specs and figure out which one I want from each category, though I still don't know how Roland and Korg's keybed compare.

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#457055 - 08/28/18 08:08 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Bachus
...

-Roland RD200

-Korg Grand stage



...


I narrowed down my search to these two for a new stage piano. The key bed is the most important factor for me. Any thoughts?



If you don't need a full blown workstation the Roland FP90 has the same keybed as the 2000 . Just a stage piano but a very good one. Good variety of sounds and great onboard speakers.


Plus one for the FP90.

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#457057 - 08/28/18 08:46 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: SAM CA]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Bachus
...

-Roland RD200

-Korg Grand stage



...


I narrowed down my search to these two for a new stage piano. The key bed is the most important factor for me. Any thoughts?



I really really love the Roland pha-50 keybed, its quite light for an 88 key, but feels very natural....

If you want to use the keyboard in combination with other equipment, the Rolamd also has all the masterkeyboard features you would ever need..

Where the fp-90 has the same keybed, it misses all the master keyboard features...
It also misses the convenient way of the rd2000 to split and layer sounds over the keybed.. it misses also the dsp power that lifts the RD2000 sounds to the next level. And it misses the remarcable V-piano sounds that are in the rd-2000, as well as having a smaller soundset in general.

The fp90 however comes with build in speakers, but is not really a stage piano, but more of a compact piano..

The rd-2000 is build like a truck, and meant to be the heart of any ones setup..with all the connectivity..


The korg grand stage has much of the kronos engines inside, sounds top(yet i do prefer the roland piano’s) keybed is okay, but misses all the real time controll options of the rd2000..


Edited by Bachus (08/28/18 08:53 PM)
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#457060 - 08/28/18 09:02 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Bachus]
SAM CA Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus

....I really really love the Roland pha-50 keybed, its quite light for an 88 key, but feels very natural...


Is it? That's what I don't like. I really need that hammer action. How does it compare to the RH3 on Kronos, Grandstage..etc?



Edited by SAM CA (08/28/18 09:02 PM)

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#457062 - 08/28/18 10:14 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: SAM CA]
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Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Bachus

....I really really love the Roland pha-50 keybed, its quite light for an 88 key, but feels very natural...


Is it? That's what I don't like. I really need that hammer action. How does it compare to the RH3 on Kronos, Grandstage..etc?



Its full weighted hammer action, just not with a heavy touch.. its a lovely action to play for a piano player, only kawai does better... but it plays like a real grand piano, even has key escapement..

The RH3 on the Grand stage also has a light action. Most stage piano's do, as they are also used for playing organ and synth parts.. The action of the Grandstage is weighted however (high end keys have lighter touch then low end keys) where the Kronos isn't.. despite the name the Kronos and the Grand stage do not have the same keybed.

You really need to try it Sam, i know you will love the Roland, and as some said, the fp90 and some other Rolands have exactly the same keybed..

I don't know ehere you live, and if there is an option to drive to a local Roland dealer to give the FP80/RD2000 or any comparable Roland with the PHA50 keybed.


If you want a stage piano with a heavy action, i guess you need to look into the kawai MP11, but then thats also 35kg..


Edited by Bachus (08/28/18 10:18 PM)
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#457063 - 08/28/18 10:57 PM Re: For you 88 KEY Lovers.. [Re: Dnj]
SAM CA Offline
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Just came back from a local store. Not Roland, but they did have the Grandstage. Yeah, it's light! Too similar to my K 88 so I guess I'm not getting the Grandstage after all. The FP90 is probably in the same ballpark. Gotta check out the one from Kawai then. The weight won't be an issue for me. Besides my Acoustic Piano gigs, I hardly play anywhere, and when I do...the Pa4x 61 is good enough.


Edited by SAM CA (08/28/18 11:02 PM)

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