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#456746 - 08/24/18 06:46 AM
Genos Live show..
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#456765 - 08/24/18 09:57 AM
Re: Genos Live show..
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Great demo thanks for sharing Donny. I also like the fact it was like most Arranger players preform. Backing their vocals with various styles and sounds. I really love the original sounds he uses to great effect. Wish I was that creative. That brings me to a dilemma. I've spent way too much time programming Registrations on my BK9 and I tend to stick with a small collection of usable sounds, especially for the RH fills and backing. Mostly Piano. WHY ? because I'm trying to connect with the general audience and I feel if you start getting too "electronic" or esoteric with your sounds you lose them as they don't feel its real. Bartmanns crowd was there to see an Arranger so they knew what to expect. Biggest keyboard draw here now is Dueling Pianos which is really not. Its just one Piano at a time playing and the other person singing and doing Tambourine. But it is just piano, no other sounds. Another reason why the Acoustic Guitar / Singer thing is so big. Peope relate to a familiar guitar and can see the preformer playing ( even if it is only 4 chords LOL ! ) Another reason I don't thin I'll jump to a new Arranger, I'm tired of programming. Rather spend my time on the music. IMHO BTW the Genos sounds great !
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#456772 - 08/24/18 10:33 AM
Re: Genos Live show..
[Re: Bill Lewis]
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Great demo thanks for sharing Donny. I also like the fact it was like most Arranger players preform. Backing their vocals with various styles and sounds. I really love the original sounds he uses to great effect. Wish I was that creative. That brings me to a dilemma. I've spent way too much time programming Registrations on my BK9 and I tend to stick with a small collection of usable sounds, especially for the RH fills and backing. Mostly Piano. WHY ? because I'm trying to connect with the general audience and I feel if you start getting too "electronic" or esoteric with your sounds you lose them as they don't feel its real. Bartmanns crowd was there to see an Arranger so they knew what to expect. Biggest keyboard draw here now is Dueling Pianos which is really not. Its just one Piano at a time playing and the other person singing and doing Tambourine. But it is just piano, no other sounds. Another reason why the Acoustic Guitar / Singer thing is so big. Peope relate to a familiar guitar and can see the preformer playing ( even if it is only 4 chords LOL ! ) Another reason I don't thin I'll jump to a new Arranger, I'm tired of programming. Rather spend my time on the music. IMHO BTW the Genos sounds great ! Your very welcome Bill....all good points and no one cares...just sing your heart out with great vocalsand back yourself with a decent groove is all you need,..either a style, smf, backing tracks, etc,... it's all good and people love it. have fun mix it up.. let's face it most sit there half asleep looking at the demonstrator who is way more excited about the KB then anyone in the audience saying to themselves, .."sounds pretty good" but I could never play like that!! then clap a few times and go home bewildered ![confused2 confused2](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/confused3.gif) they should be honest and say in the beginning of the demo...Ladies and gentlemen I will now show you how great I can play this kb but believe me you will never sound like me ever!!....lol,.... ok let's get started
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#456836 - 08/25/18 08:30 AM
Re: Genos Live show..
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At $6K, I would expect to hear the gems that an experienced player can highlight...... Suki, I understand your point, and if look at all the demoes at web, you'll find a lot made by Yamaha that is more advanced demoes. Those that Baartman does are also often 'deeper' than the one above. Again, if look at the public in the video, mostly well grown up and older people. They hardly tap feet to the music. They is probably there because of free coffee, softdrinks and some 'schlager' entertainment, not because they want deep technical info about advanced features. I think Baartmans demoes and this one are done for different usergroups. Btw, I did not pay $6k either, far less, but still not the cheapest I ever bought ...... ![keys keys](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/keys.gif)
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#456899 - 08/26/18 11:21 AM
Re: Genos Live show..
[Re: Dnj]
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This has turned into an interesting discussion. I for one enjoy all of the demos. The pros and the semi-pros equally. I for one really don't expect to be moving up to the Geno's anytime in the future. Maybe if I win a lotto I might go for a psr s975 or the Korg pa1000 but in the meantime I'm having a ball learning what I can do with my used 3000. For the most part I think I can duplicate most of the stuff I hear on the demos backing my songs. I'm trying to get where I can move around the system without thought and be creative with what I have. I have come to the conclusion that for the most part I have all the arranger I need for North Central Arkansas and the NH circut. Would I like a new kb? Of course! But I am very happy listening to the assorted demos and picking up learning tips from each.
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#456902 - 08/26/18 11:55 AM
Re: Genos Live show..
[Re: Dnj]
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This is a great demo for this forum. It clearly shows how wonderful the keyboard sounds when used in various venues by a somehwhat above average musician who is also a great singer. And, it also reveals how great the new VH2 system sounds as well when in the hands of a good entertainer. Good find, Donny, Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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