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#457147 - 08/30/18 09:54 AM Possible trade deal on the table ...
Uncle Dave Offline
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I find myself in new territory these days. I'm fortunate to be set up in a 4 night job that has a house system, with good monitors, and that's got me thinking of trading my (NEVER USED) PA-1000 for a PA4x. I know, I know, I've said MANY times, that a silent slab is not for me, but this house setup allows me to position the monitors where I like, and leave them all week. I'd like the separate control of the vocals, and real time sliders that the 4x allows.

So...... any 4Xers out there in a "Let's make a deal" mode?
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#457150 - 08/30/18 10:46 AM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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DAVE
That's like jumping ship before it's even in the water LOL.
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#457152 - 08/30/18 10:50 AM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Good move, Dave. The 4x has plenty over the Pa1000 for a working pro such as yourself.

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#457156 - 08/30/18 11:35 AM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Sounds like Dave has caught a bad case of "Donnyitis".

smile

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#457163 - 08/30/18 12:30 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Dave,

If I remember right you had a PA4X previously. Did you find the mic preamp to be significantly better than the 900? Also, why aren't you using the 1000?

Thanks

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#457169 - 08/30/18 01:37 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
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Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Did you find the mic preamp to be significantly better than the 900? Also, why aren't you using the 1000?

Two great questions. Yes, I had a 4x about 2 years ago, but I was doing so many one nighters, that setting up monitors was too much hassle.
Q1: The mic pre is better on the 4x. Maybe not the sound, per se, but there is an extra harmony voice available, and the addition of unison/chorus along with harmonies. This is useful for 4 freshmen/Letterman style harmonies.
Q2: The 1000 has a few cosmetic differences that made a quick swap from the 900 impossible. I use a small DJ style mixer velcro'd above the pitch lever, and there's no room for it on the 1000. I thought I'd lust leave it in the studio for recording, and I still might ... unless I can make a nice swap with someone. Then, the 900 will stay home, and always ready for one night stands.

The 1000 has some great improvements over the 900, most noticeably the screen, but there were real estate issues that trumped the screen.
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#457170 - 08/30/18 01:39 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Sounds like Dave has caught a bad case of "Donnyitis".


Maybe, but I've had this 900 for a long time, and only recently fell into a situation where I don't have to set up nightly. It's pretty cool to just walk in, take off the dust cover, and hit the power button!
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#457177 - 08/30/18 01:59 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By cgiles
Sounds like Dave has caught a bad case of "Donnyitis".


Maybe, but I've had this 900 for a long time, and only recently fell into a situation where I don't have to set up nightly. It's pretty cool to just walk in, take off the dust cover, and hit the power button!


Think hard about the deal/swicth as you well know good things,
house gigs, don't last forever.......but good luck Dave.

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#457181 - 08/30/18 02:06 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
cgiles Offline
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Donny's got a point, Dave....but spending money irrationally is SOOOOOO much fun smile.

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#457186 - 08/30/18 02:33 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
W Tracy Parnell Offline
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Did you find the mic preamp to be significantly better than the 900? Also, why aren't you using the 1000?

Two great questions. Yes, I had a 4x about 2 years ago, but I was doing so many one nighters, that setting up monitors was too much hassle.
Q1: The mic pre is better on the 4x. Maybe not the sound, per se, but there is an extra harmony voice available, and the addition of unison/chorus along with harmonies. This is useful for 4 freshmen/Letterman style harmonies.
Q2: The 1000 has a few cosmetic differences that made a quick swap from the 900 impossible. I use a small DJ style mixer velcro'd above the pitch lever, and there's no room for it on the 1000. I thought I'd lust leave it in the studio for recording, and I still might ... unless I can make a nice swap with someone. Then, the 900 will stay home, and always ready for one night stands.

The 1000 has some great improvements over the 900, most noticeably the screen, but there were real estate issues that trumped the screen.


Thanks for the reply. So if you switch to the PA4X will you use the built-in mic-pre/harmony or the external TC Helicon?

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#457222 - 08/31/18 02:34 PM Re: Possible trade deal on the table ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Internal, or course! If I was going with an external unit, I wouldn't need to make the switch. I have a VL3, but I mostly use that for guitar performances.


Edited by Uncle Dave (08/31/18 02:35 PM)
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