I realize they have onboard sequencers, and Montage doesn’t. But, anyone wanting to do serious recording will want there tracks out putted to a computer for final editing.

Yamaha should make this available on their higher end arrangers. (JMHO)

jingleman

They have a midi out that will suffice for most things, but I don't know of any arranger keyboard that has an audio output for each and every audio segment. Most of the folks I know that do any serious recording use multi-channel software and layer their songs, which is a bit time consuming, but really works well. Audacity works extremely well in this respect, and it's free at https://www.audacityteam.org/

Good luck,

Gary

Thanks Gary...I have midi synced my arranger to my daw, but as you say, its clumsy at best. The new Yamaha workstation has a 2 in 10 out audio interface built in. This would allow 10 audio tracks outputed to your daw simultaneously through USB out. That would simplify multitrack recording significantly.

With the cost of arrangers being where they are...you think they’d include this option.

The KETRON MS40 (from early 90's) and SD1 and X1 (from the late 90's) have 4 Audio Outputs.

The AUDYA series has 6, while the new SD9/90/60/7/40/80 have 3.

Thanks,

AJ

AJ, what he is talking about is a separate output for every segment of the style file and every segment of the right hand voice(s). Not the various outputs that are essentially the combination of everything played.

Gary

You got it Gary. I know Genos has 3 pair of stereo outs....but to have 10 audio outs through 1 USB port...well to me...that’s nirvana!

Thanks,
jingleman

... on the KETRON units, a style has 10 parts/tracks. Are you saying 10 outputs where you can have each part of the style record to an individual track on an DAW? E.g on the SD1, you can route drums to output1, Bass to output 2, Chord3 to output 3 and lead/right hand voice to output 4 (but you would want to separate the 2 drum tracks and the 5 chord1-5 tracks), right? Now on output 4, even if you layer 3 voices, ALL will come out of out 4 (but if I read you correctly, you're saying have each of the layered voices coming out on a separate track in this scenario - which translates into 10 physical outputs - correct?)

I disagree with Yamaha fan club..

Its a shame Yamaha didn’t add this to their most expensive model..
Same with some other features...
And why didn’t they do it?

Well because its sunny fanbase keep defending Yamaha, whatever they do...
A build in audio feature is what allows full integration between daw and keyboard..
If you want that, yamaha wants you to buy another keyboard of them..
Thats their whole marketing scheme..

For the price of the Genos, one should expect that everything yamaha has to offer in the keyboard department is inside the instrument..
Well, there is so many things missing, its not even funny anymore..
The `genos could have been the most advanced keyboard leading the pact by half a mile..
Now its discussable if they are even in fromt of the competition(korg/ketron)
I think for the total package they are slightly ahead, but just with the tip of their nose..

Currently the Genos is 1k more expemsive then a 76 key montage
Or a 76 key pa4x or an sd9 pro..

Its 10 mono channels for the modx, and 4 in..
Making it 5 stereo and 2 stereo in..

The montage has 32 and 8..

And yes on the montage you can record 16 stereo parts directly over usb with 16 bit 48khz digital audio... or 4 parts with 96khz/24bit...all paralel at the same time...also since 2.5 with one button push all your controll are allocated to the daw...

The montage/modx will also functiom as a vst controller.. and inside your daw, you will see the montage or modx as a VST.. very very userfriendly...

With the audio over usb inputS(which are the outputs for the pc, it functions as an audio interfface for pc...

If you want full integration with a pc.. this is the easiest way to go... no hardware requirements (except a fast usb 2 port interface) just software...

The kronos has this to, but its not stable anymore and a bit laggy since korg did some software updates..

This is the a one reason why i am considering a montage to combine it with the sd90 and my macbook... a setup like this, offers much much more then a Genos.. combining the best arranger styles and interface with the most powerfull sample engine and fm engine and the best masterkeyboard in the world...(connecting the sd90 trough the analogue audio in of montage even runs my sd90 sound trough the yamaha master dsp effects if i opt to)