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#458826 - 09/28/18 01:19 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: Bachus]
Crossover Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Crossover
Kronos is from 2011 and has no problems keeping its top position. 5-7 years is not as much any more as it was in the 1990s.


Thats only because korg with the oasys,which is actually a basic version of kronos, invested hugely in new technollogy.. the jump in technollogy was so huge and expensive that its still the leading instrument..

Sd 1000, sounds very good, but was never based on a huge leap in technollogy,mand so can not be compared to the Kronos longlevity in any way..

Yet the sd1000 holds the same sound engine as the sd7 amd sd40, an offers he same great sounds we havebecome to like from Ketron..

Yet technollogywise, it leaps quite a mile beyound Genos, pa4x and moxd...

But musically its still top knotch because of ketrons love for detail and the musicallity they put intheir instrumments


The SD1000 was never intended to be a premium module to compete with Audya, Tyros 4/5 etc.
I'm convinced 5-7 years in the 1990s was a much bigger step technologically compared to the present time. Kronos is not such an exception, the Motif XF, only gradually improved from the XS, had a long life span that would have been impossible in the 1990s, where the growth of sample quality was faster.

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#458827 - 09/28/18 01:24 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: SAM CA]
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There's so much confusion going on here. Just to clarify, the reason behind posting this video is too simple. It's nothing but an audio/video demo of some of the SD1000 sounds. That's all there's to it.

From what I've gathered, Ketron still sells this "very old" unit, so in case if someone is interested in this entry level affordable unit, they may or may not find this video useful.


Edited by SAM CA (09/28/18 01:25 PM)

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#458829 - 09/28/18 01:45 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: SAM CA]
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People are always looking for a magic bullet to lose weight that doesn't involve diet or exercise. Likewise, people are also hoping that the next new technological breakthrough in keyboards (arrangers or otherwise) is suddenly going to turn them into Hiromi WITHOUT putting in the work. As Paul states in his signature line, "It's not the keyboard, it's the keyboardist". I, for one, would rather hear SAM CA on that "ancient" little inexpensive Ketron module than MOST (not all) of the proud new Genos owners on their latest toy. Why do we care more about the age of the sound source than how it actually sounds? BTW, I'm glad to see DonM (is willing to) 'go back in time' to a board he LIKES THE SOUND OF despite a possible regression in technology. Bottom and mid-status acts will use a 'clonewheel' but the TOTL acts will almost always use a vintage 'B3/Leslie'. Maybe part of that is because the TOTL musicians can play in ALL the keys without a transpose button (remember the 'old days' when you either had to learn how to play in all the keys OR play everything in the same one or two keys you felt comfortable in). Anyhoo.....nice playing Sam, that AP you opened with sounds really good for an 'outdated' inexpensive module.

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#458830 - 09/28/18 02:08 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
People are always looking for a magic bullet to lose weight that doesn't involve diet or exercise. Likewise, people are also hoping that the next new technological breakthrough in keyboards (arrangers or otherwise) is suddenly going to turn them into Hiromi WITHOUT putting in the work. As Paul states in his signature line, "It's not the keyboard, it's the keyboardist". I, for one, would rather hear SAM CA on that "ancient" little inexpensive Ketron module than MOST (not all) of the proud new Genos owners on their latest toy. Why do we care more about the age of the sound source than how it actually sounds? BTW, I'm glad to see DonM (is willing to) 'go back in time' to a board he LIKES THE SOUND OF despite a possible regression in technology. Bottom and mid-status acts will use a 'clonewheel' but the TOTL acts will almost always use a vintage 'B3/Leslie'. Maybe part of that is because the TOTL musicians can play in ALL the keys without a transpose button (remember the 'old days' when you either had to learn how to play in all the keys OR play everything in the same one or two keys you felt comfortable in). Anyhoo.....nice playing Sam, that AP you opened with sounds really good for an 'outdated' inexpensive module.

chas


I agree to a point...playing in your bedroom is one thing hardly no one hears it but if your playing out as a pro to hundreds of people is a whole different ball game for many reasons.A Hammond B3, a Vintage Les Paul guitar or a Fender Rhodes, Yamaha DX7 etc, are some examples of classic sounds that never get old. I have to agree with Chas on many of his points stated...to much emphasis on what the latest and greatest sound which means squat if you can't back it up with some great playing to go along with it....I have many friends who have amazing keyboard setups and studios...but, honestly not great players for an assortment of reasons like timing issues,off key singing, cannot play and sing at the same time, horrible stage presence in front of an audience with no personality whatsoever, wrong chords, slow navigational technics while performing on kb, improper use of a vocal harmonizer,
and on and on, yet they have all the latest and greatest gear you can imagine go figure. Some of these traits are hereditary some are due to non experience or training whatever the case may be and as always the bottom line is "What does your playing sound like"?
and will IMO be the only factor compared to what ever gear your playing with new or old.. great reply Chas

Thanx for the thoughts..


Edited by Dnj (09/28/18 02:08 PM)

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#458831 - 09/28/18 02:28 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: SAM CA]
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Just for clarification, this demo is for the SD1000 AJAMSONIC which was released early 2013! Donny, you may have been refering to the SD2 (Orchetral Wizard whcih is based of the SD5/3/Midjay Plus sound engine) which was released in 2009!

Both are still in production!

Regardless, this is just a demo put together to demonstrate the SD1000 as never before. We realized that in the past, our demos were targeting a specific audience and as of now with the help and collaboration of US based folks like Sam and dealers like Curt of IMMusic, we are expanding our sphare of influence.

Thanks,
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#458832 - 09/28/18 03:04 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: SAM CA]
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Originally Posted By SAM CA
There's so much confusion going on here. Just to clarify, the reason behind posting this video is too simple. It's nothing but an audio/video demo of some of the SD1000 sounds. That's all there's to it.

From what I've gathered, Ketron still sells this "very old" unit, so in case if someone is interested in this entry level affordable unit, they may or may not find this video useful.


Sorry for contributing to leading the thread into an unintended direction, I was reacting to DNJ's strange remarks about the age of this very good module (which I owned myself for a while).

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#458833 - 09/28/18 03:17 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Just for clarification, this demo is for the SD1000 AJAMSONIC which was released early 2013! Donny, you may have been refering to the SD2 (Orchetral Wizard whcih is based of the SD5/3/Midjay Plus sound engine) which was released in 2009!

Both are still in production!

Regardless, this is just a demo put together to demonstrate the SD1000 as never before. We realized that in the past, our demos were targeting a specific audience and as of now with the help and collaboration of US based folks like Sam and dealers like Curt of IMMusic, we are expanding our sphare of influence.

Thanks,


Aj. Thanx I've had so many units I could get confused thank you for the clarification...


Edited by Dnj (09/28/18 03:24 PM)

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#458836 - 09/28/18 05:17 PM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Ketron_AJ
Just for clarification, this demo is for the SD1000 AJAMSONIC which was released early 2013! Donny, you may have been refering to the SD2 (Orchetral Wizard whcih is based of the SD5/3/Midjay Plus sound engine) which was released in 2009!

Both are still in production!

Regardless, this is just a demo put together to demonstrate the SD1000 as never before. We realized that in the past, our demos were targeting a specific audience and as of now with the help and collaboration of US based folks like Sam and dealers like Curt of IMMusic, we are expanding our sphare of influence.

Thanks,


Aj. Thanx I've had so many units I could get confused thank you for the clarification...


Once a KETRONer, always a KETRONer. It's hard to go back!

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#458839 - 09/29/18 01:06 AM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
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Sorry for contributing to leading the thread into an unintended direction, I was reacting to DNJ's strange remarks about the age of this very good module (which I owned myself for a while).


You were only trying to rescue the thread from those weird comments followed by even stranger remarks about professionals and technology for a pocket size module, so thank you very much for being helpful.

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#458840 - 09/29/18 01:26 AM Re: Ketron SD1000 Sound Module - Video Demo [Re: SAM CA]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By SAM CA
Originally Posted By Crossover
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Sorry for contributing to leading the thread into an unintended direction, I was reacting to DNJ's strange remarks about the age of this very good module (which I owned myself for a while).


You were only trying to rescue the thread from those weird comments followed by even stranger remarks about professionals and technology for a pocket size module, so thank you very much for being helpful.


Well, she compared it to the longlevity of the kronos... i just explained that was like comparing apples to pears..

Anyway, i think everyone here agrees, its a great sounding module, that brings you the typical ketron sound at a nice price...

At Willy Dera in Holland they offer the same integration of this module with genos as the yammex from v3sounds has...

Where i said, its the same sounds and tech as the sd40 and sd7, now i am wondering if it might be the sounds of the audya inside... altough, don’t think there is much difference between them...

Now my question, what does the ajamsonic version offer thats not in the standard sd1000?
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