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#461069 - 11/07/18 06:27 AM
Re: Mid term elections
[Re: The Saint]
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
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Hi Ray,
It's shocking to me the Democrats won the House. The Democratic party has become radicalized and socialistic. It has always been the more "socialistic" party, but they have raised this to new levels. They are trying everything in their power to STOP Trump at each turn. The thing is; Trump is a Builder and Fixer. He wants to repair our neglected country, which has been decimated in so many ways our entitlement programs, infrastructure, military, wages, trade, etc etc. The democrats want everyone to have free healthcare, high taxes, open borders, etc etc. There seems to be no middle ground here in the states; However, most people want a government with Common Sense! Some would say Trump, who is not a politician, is trying to use common sense, but the dems are unwilling to consider it at all cost.
Edited by kbrkr (11/07/18 06:28 AM)
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#461113 - 11/08/18 02:53 AM
Re: Mid term elections
[Re: The Saint]
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Registered: 10/29/07
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Loc: Sydney Australia
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Thanks Al, and Captain Russ for your replies. No doubt both your thoughts are straight from the hip, from both sides of U.S. politics.( Maybe you both could have made your views much clearer)!!!!! lol. Interestingly though, it personifies pretty well, the divide in behavior, and policies, of our two major parties down here. But I don't think either of you have answered my original question: "what is your read/take/opinion" of this outcome, and how it relates to the immediate future of the U.S ? Media comments down here are mixed, "Trump loses", "Democrats huge win","Expected Mid-Term result" etc. Ray (The curious one)
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#461117 - 11/08/18 06:24 AM
Re: Mid term elections
[Re: The Saint]
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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But I don't think either of you have answered my original question: "what is your read/take/opinion" of this outcome, and how it relates to the immediate future of the U.S ? Media comments down here are mixed, "Trump loses", "Democrats huge win","Expected Mid-Term result" etc. Ray (The curious one)
I don't think the outcome will change much. Trump has only exposed what was already there in our society. Although the majority of Americans (approx. 60-65%) still believe in the founding principles and ideals of America, kindness, empathy, diversity/inclusion, service, equal justice, independence, equal opportunity, personal freedom, etc., there is still that 'hard-core', that has always been there, who either practice and/or condone the despicable attitudes and actions of this current admistration. And then there are the super-hypocrites; those that are willing to tolerate any and all types of unacceptable behavior in exchange for an (imagined) tax break, a pro-life judge, and a promise to protect us from the invasion of Black and Brown people who are hell-bent on taking our jobs (and eventually our country). Under this administration, ideally, immigration would be restricted to Scandinavian countries with special exemptions for Germany. Sure hope they can find enough Scandinavians who enjoy picking fruit, doing lawn maintenance, and making up germ-ridden motel beds. So how do I feel about Mr. Trump and the current administration? I'll save myself some typing. Just take Capt Russ's post above and multiply it by 10. chas
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#461163 - 11/08/18 03:18 PM
Re: Mid term elections
[Re: The Saint]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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To paraphrase Andrew Gillum, 'maybe he's not a racist, but the racist think he's a racist', and when you think about, who better to make that determination. What amazes me is number of people that find this man attractive or even acceptable, as the moral leader of this nation. But then I look at the make-up of his rally followers and it becomes pretty clear. I guess I can understand it if, economically, you belong to the top 1%. What I don't understand is the other 95% where practically every policy that comes out of this administration works against their interest; from fighting minimum wage to cutbacks to education to getting rid of the safeguards to air and water quality to protection of voting rights to healthcare protections for the most vulnerable in our society (typically that would be the Trump voter with no college degree, 60+ years of age, few if any retirement resources, and living payday to payday in a job that has not seen a wage increase in 30 years). But hey, who doesn't like Kool-aid. As long as people can be manipulated with (totally irrational) fear of the 'other', people like Trump will always be able to use them to garner powe and enrich themselves and their own social class. And that folks, is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
chas
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