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Nice singing, piano could of been fuller but really a great job overall. Her tip jar would be full.
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Nice singing, piano could of been fuller but really a great job overall. Her tip jar would be full.
This girl doesn't play for tips She has 1.3 Million followers on youtube That means some serious cash comming from that Well played, tough never heared of her before And of course the orriginal version was better But then that was the best song ever recorded.
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It's a great cover indeed, but i can't help but thinking that she gets that amount of views and likes just because she's a woman Just like all those women out there who play mediocre guitar solo's all get tons of comments about how fantastic it is and with how much emotion they play, while in reality they just like it because it shows clevage and because it's a woman doing it.
Not slacking her at all! Because she's fantastic, but if she would've been a man her views would've been 50% of what they were now, pretty sure about that.
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It's a great cover indeed, but i can't help but thinking that she gets that amount of views and likes just because she's a woman....
Take a look at her website and bio. She's young, but already been in the 'game' for a while. https://www.connietalbot.com/
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The tip jar thing was a joke but as said being a woman does make a differance in perception of talent. And if she did work a club or bar the tip jar would get full partially because of that. Envision a guy doing the same quality of a performance and it wouldn't get much attention.
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Of course we all love tips, gratuities, etc, But,many people detest TIP JARS in any form and perceive them as a "very presumptuous gesture" on the part of the person or establishment, who put it out. Just like a Tip jar for Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, sandwich shop, McDonalds, restaurants, or anyplace where you are supposed to be just doing your job and getting paid. When does it end? A gratuity is the privilege of the consumer's generosity "without being baited" what's next a tip scale too 10%/20% who made these rules?.....after all the person made the choice to take the job in the first place for that salary regardless of so called tips, etc,.
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"Just like a Tip jar for Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, sandwich shop, McDonalds, restaurants, or anyplace where you are supposed to be just doing your job and getting paid. When does it end? "
I agree its out of hand but in the music scene here its the norm and people expect it. Its a way they can show their appreciation. Very few acts don't do it. I don't put a jar out and people still want to tip, even in some of the high end places I've worked. The Dueling Pianos thing here that is so popular doesn't put a jar out either, they just have the money all over the top of the piano. Request a song, leave a tip.
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Much better preformance. In fact excellent.
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People who work in 'fast food' or coffee houses very often do so because it is the best they can do at the moment ... Both my kids worked as wait staff during college ... it is very difficult work at less than minimum wage ... and quite often they get stiffed ... these people RELY on tips ... There is an old saying " Walk a mile in MY shoes ... Give me good service and you will get a generous tip ... JMHO
PS ... At the restaurant I 'sub' in, the management puts a tip jar out, even though it is a good paying gig ...
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Of course we all love tips, gratuities, etc, But,many people detest TIP JARS in any form and perceive them as a "very presumptuous gesture" on the part of the person or establishment, who put it out. Just like a Tip jar for Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, sandwich shop, McDonalds, restaurants, or anyplace where you are supposed to be just doing your job and getting paid. When does it end? A gratuity is the privilege of the consumer's generosity "without being baited" what's next a tip scale too 10%/20% who made these rules?.....after all the person made the choice to take the job in the first place for that salary regardless of so called tips, etc,.
Thoughts?
I totally disagree with you here..
"just doing your job"
Waitresses are just doing their job, that just happens to be a tip oriented job... tips are expected... the salary is a basic $2-3 dollars an hour.. Yes they have a choice, and the chosen job is a tip oriented job.. If you are good at it , congenial, courteous, efficient, you do well, if not maybe get a non tip job , like singing at a nursing home
My thoughts, if you can't afford or desire to tip for your service, stay home and have burnt toast with your cold coffee.
It's a great cover indeed, but i can't help but thinking that she gets that amount of views and likes just because she's a woman Just like all those women out there who play mediocre guitar solo's all get tons of comments about how fantastic it is and with how much emotion they play, while in reality they just like it because it shows clevage and because it's a woman doing it.
Not slacking her at all! Because she's fantastic, but if she would've been a man her views would've been 50% of what they were now, pretty sure about that.
Well, thats youtube, i would allways prefer to watch her instead of you...
Next to looking great, he has a nice voice, plays keys and guitar, and makes great arrangements... she has got everything needed to take a shot at the charts of fame
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Of course we all love tips, gratuities, etc, But,many people detest TIP JARS in any form and perceive them as a "very presumptuous gesture" on the part of the person or establishment, who put it out. Just like a Tip jar for Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, sandwich shop, McDonalds, restaurants, or anyplace where you are supposed to be just doing your job and getting paid. When does it end? A gratuity is the privilege of the consumer's generosity "without being baited" what's next a tip scale too 10%/20% who made these rules?.....after all the person made the choice to take the job in the first place for that salary regardless of so called tips, etc,.
Thoughts?
I totally disagree with you here..
"just doing your job"
Waitresses are just doing their job, that just happens to be a tip oriented job... tips are expected... the salary is a basic $2-3 dollars an hour.. Yes they have a choice, and the chosen job is a tip oriented job.. If you are good at it , congenial, courteous, efficient, you do well, if not maybe get a non tip job , like singing at a nursing home
My thoughts, if you can't afford or desire to tip for your service, stay home and have burnt toast with your cold coffee.
So let me ask you that nurses aid at the nursing home changing bedpans all day long and colostomy bags should get tips right? just saying... Hmmmmmm?
It's a great cover indeed, but i can't help but thinking that she gets that amount of views and likes just because she's a woman Just like all those women out there who play mediocre guitar solo's all get tons of comments about how fantastic it is and with how much emotion they play, while in reality they just like it because it shows clevage and because it's a woman doing it.
Not slacking her at all! Because she's fantastic, but if she would've been a man her views would've been 50% of what they were now, pretty sure about that.
Well, thats youtube, i would allways prefer to watch her instead of you...
Well, i can only agree with you on that, i would also rather watch an 18 year old woman with a good body ánd talent instead of a 27 year old morbidly obese guy who most of the time plays keyboard in the key of C, so ehh..
But that's not the point. The point is that the perception of talent is different because of her looks, because she's a woman.
It was a good performance for sure! But it wasn't THAT good that it deserved the amount of views that it has in my opinion.
Gary Mullen is a fantastic Freddie Mercury impersonator, just listen to this:
This guy sounds closer to Freddie than Marc does, do you see the amount of views? FOUR THOUSAND, because he's not a good looking person and because in the eye of "The People" HE is seen as merely a Freddie Mercury impersonator, while Marc Martel is seen as a completely different singer from that standpoint..
And with women it's roughly the same although men seem to think from a different standpoint since an ugly woman with boobs is still... a woman with boobs, and then you don't get the whole "She does/doesn't have talent" discussion but then they get seen as an object.
Even if there was a woman singing as bad as a drunk Elton John with bursted nodules with a flat chest and a hoodie on she would still get lots of great comments and likes and people would love what she was doing because well.. She's a woman. If a guy was doing that people would be shitting all over it, downvoting it, trolling on there, hating every inch of it..
And that's the difference imo.
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I think, as Fran said, that if your job is " tip oriented" meaning you accept a lower minimum guaranteed salary, with the anticipation of tips earned by your service, cleavage, or whatever, then you should tip accordingly, or not. I used to play at hotels like the Fountainebleu where the bell captain would rake in big bucks from applicants to park cars.
I used to play at hotels like the Fountainebleu where the bell captain would rake in big bucks from applicants to park cars.
But today sadly Bernie is another time & place, no matter how you look at it tipping in any fashion for any service, etc,is the customers choice bottom line.another tradition dwindling away...... LOl people are still tipping bartenders 1950's style 25¢ for a drink if at all....
Isn't tipping someone in the US actually neccessary because it's basically his salary ? Since wages are still kinda low? Here in The Netherlands people can actually earn pretty good for a living so that's why a tip normally never really exceeds $2, whil in the US it's mostly 10% of what the meal costs right?
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Bernie, I also performed at The Fountainebleu, the one in Baltimore City. The waiters there were paid well under the minimum wage. Currently, minimum hourly wage in Maryland is $10.10, however waitstaff wages begin at $5.12 per hour.
That said, the waitstaff in many of the very upscale restaurants make as much as $1,000 a night. In those particular restaurants, the waitstaff age ranges from 40 to 60 years of age, and they pretty much consider it a lifetime job. Sure, they work very hard, they're on their feet constantly, most do not take breaks, but at the end of the night, they're able to shove a grand or more in the pocket and drive home. The lowly entertainer will likely get paid about $150 for his 4-hour performance, and with luck add another $100 in tips if they're in a tourist town. Locals rarely tip!
I enjoyed the young lady's performance that DNJ posted. Not only was she talented, but very attractive to boot. However, she was a typical example of the female entertainers I knew when I worked the nite club and restaurant circuit in Baltimore. Most, but not all, had other forms of income to supplement their musical careers.
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Isn't tipping someone in the US actually neccessary because it's basically his salary ? Since wages are still kinda low? Here in The Netherlands people can actually earn pretty good for a living so that's why a tip normally never really exceeds $2, whil in the US it's mostly 10% of what the meal costs right?
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Originally Posted By Dnj
Of course we all love tips, gratuities, etc, But,many people detest TIP JARS in any form and perceive them as a "very presumptuous gesture" on the part of the person or establishment, who put it out. Just like a Tip jar for Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, sandwich shop, McDonalds, restaurants, or anyplace where you are supposed to be just doing your job and getting paid. When does it end? A gratuity is the privilege of the consumer's generosity "without being baited" what's next a tip scale too 10%/20% who made these rules?.....after all the person made the choice to take the job in the first place for that salary regardless of so called tips, etc,.
Thoughts?
I totally disagree with you here..
"just doing your job"
Waitresses are just doing their job, that just happens to be a tip oriented job... tips are expected... the salary is a basic $2-3 dollars an hour.. Yes they have a choice, and the chosen job is a tip oriented job.. If you are good at it , congenial, courteous, efficient, you do well, if not maybe get a non tip job , like singing at a nursing home
My thoughts, if you can't afford or desire to tip for your service, stay home and have burnt toast with your cold coffee.
So let me ask you that nurses aid at the nursing home changing bedpans all day long and colostomy bags should get tips right? just saying... Hmmmmmm?
Nope!!! as you mentioned , they had a choice and decided on a salary position, that is not tip oriented..
So let me ask you that nurses aid at the nursing home changing bedpans all day long and colostomy bags should get tips right? just saying... Hmmmmmm? [/quote]
Only the Doctors doing the circumcisions get to keep the tips.
So let me ask you that nurses aid at the nursing home changing bedpans all day long and colostomy bags should get tips right? just saying... Hmmmmmm? [/quote]
Only the Doctors doing the circumcisions get to keep the tips.
Back to the young singer... and her performance. With her vocal and playing capabilities... I'll be surprised if we don't see (and hear) this young lady in many big time venues in the future. To make the "package" even better, she has that "girl next door" appearance and performs with confidence. Best wishes to her for success. Let's hope she gets good management and is treated with dignity and respect... assuming she wants to be a performer.
Thanks for sharing, Donny... I'd never heard of her before... but old geezers like me are always "late for the waltz! LOL!