Trust Donny to miss the whole point. Nothing new there. Anyhow, yes Dave, I've heard many versions of the song, both vocal and instrumental. I even play the song; I like it (as a song). I only used it to show how different people view things through different cultural lenses, and how one thing that is familiar and comfortable to you may not seem offensive at all while something foreign will seem totally disgusting ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BE BEARING THE SAME MESSAGE. Let's be honest here; 98% of older Whites are going to hate Rap; period. But guess what. So do 98% of old Black folks. Sure, there is a very large racial component, but there is also a large GENERATIONAL component. In the meantime, you get posts like the one above whose sole purpose is to exacerbate an already toxic subject. Some people are just incapable of seeing below the surface of a complex social issue. I tend to ignore the thoughts, opinions, and mostly, the posts of these people as they add little of value to the conversation. 'nuff said.

chas

Chas your missing my point, ....certain sections of society create this false PC hypocritical state of mind where one way certain things are offensive but, then it's ok if others usually the same sections do and say the same thing without repercussions. Maybe Gary's right just get a bottle of Honey Jack and enjoy life without all the silly everyday drama. I am glad for one thing and that is channels on my Sirius radio in my truck so I can just set them and listen to what ever I want when I want as it should be.

Maybe life is that simple in your orbit but not in mine. Sadly, too many people in MY orbit do exactly what you propose....and nothing changes for the better.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your video post but I don't see how that video aligns with your explanation of it. I guess I'm just dense. But fine, if you meant well.

chas

That's ok Chas, ........that said, right now all I care about is two weeks of enjoying time with the family over the holidays and being thankful for what I have and of course all the great food and drink!!
I hope your doing the same.

Happy Holidays

Guy’s stop trying to prove that your opinion is the right one. The is no right one, they are JUST opinions made by someone with a different view.

I have had some tough days lately and I often use SynthZone to get past those days, please don’t MESS THAT UP.

Beat of everything for the holidays, John C.

I think todays AND yesterdays music ref!ect lifestyles of the time. The same argument can be made for both; its not a defense for one or the other when the content is offensive. Maybe it's a media thing, but my point is we don't see the criticism aimed at current music. Pointing out the mistakes of history is easy, learning from them, and changing takes more effort. I didn't intend to paint rap with a broad brush, but to illustrate that songs that do offend are not only old, but are currently being created, and rewarded in contradiction to the current climate. And not getting negative press like an old Christmas song. THAT is the double standard I object to..
The music industry's answer is to label music with an explicit lyric warning; so its okay and socially acceptable as long as they tell you about the content? The #me too movement is now saying "No". So where's the backlash? Its about $$, sales, not social responsibility in the entertainment industry. The record companies, artists and consumers are not feeling guilty..because the money is rolling in.

Sparky, well said, I didn’t think you were that smart –NICE! (smile)

I should have known from your: “The old I get the more I realize how good I was”. It says so much.

Sparky you’re a plus here, Merry Christmas.
John C.

I think the difference is that unlike previous forms of musical entertainment the focus is much more on the vocal presentation rather than the musical instrumentation. If the vocal message isn't there then for me there is nothing. But when the vocal message IS there then it becomes a powerful force. Here is a 14 year old rapper whose father was a rapper who was murdered just before she was born. Her performance is profound and her father would be so proud of her.

I LOVE elevator music. I dunno how many times I have been in an elevator where I can name the artist and track name ... because I have it in my own musical collection.