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#463256 - 12/16/18 05:02 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Dave, I'm not sure about you.
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#463284 - 12/17/18 06:28 AM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
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(not for kids language)


Edited by Dnj (12/17/18 07:02 AM)

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#463287 - 12/17/18 06:45 AM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
124 Offline
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Hope he carries a defibrillator in his car. smile

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#463288 - 12/17/18 06:59 AM Re: Tragic Death [Re: 124]
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Originally Posted By 124
Hope he carries a defibrillator in his car. smile


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#463327 - 12/17/18 01:52 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: Dnj]
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Isn't he the "milk and bread" guy?

The same age young age group that is complaining about that old song won't say the same thing about the hip hop songs of their current generation that talk about women like garbage...that's art..but this old song wasn't in its day? different???

Where is #metoo vs rap lyrics? If todays standards don't fit yesterdays music, then why are they being applied to it, making head!ines? More importantly, why aren't they applied to todays music?


Edited by sparky589 (12/17/18 02:40 PM)
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#463329 - 12/17/18 02:49 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
124 Offline
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True, Sparky. I suppose rap is an artistic expression of sorts, but I'll never call it music.

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#463332 - 12/17/18 03:50 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: 124]
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Me neither, but that's another story. It just annoys me that lyrics that are way more explicit and denegrating to women result in carts full of Grammy awards and big $$ performing contracts currently being handed out to their writers and performers in the middle of all this new outrage..
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#463334 - 12/17/18 03:54 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
124 Offline
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Me too, Sparky. It's all pretty sad.

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#463345 - 12/17/18 04:58 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
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It's all perspective. What about Cole Porter's 'Love for Sale', performed on Broadway in 1930 (some of you probably attended it smile ). This has been considered a 'standard' for years and I've never heard a single complaint about the lyrics.....sample:

'I've got love for sale
If you'd like to sample my wares
Follow me and climb the stairs
I've got love for sale'

So I guess songs about prostitution are ok, huh? They're not 'explicit and denegrating to women'? Double standard maybe?

Just sayin'.

chas
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#463354 - 12/17/18 05:27 PM Re: Tragic Death [Re: DonM]
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Love For Sale...Great jazz instrumental versions by several greats, including Miles Davis.
Vocal renditions dating back to Billy Holiday and the great Ella Fitz. Yes, the lyrics are suggestive and are considered blue and not air worthy by many. However the lyrics do not use the N word, the F word, the D word, the C word or even the W word. Nor did they suggest the violence so graphically depicted mainly against women, as well as society in general.

So, Chas, are you 'just saying' Love For Sale should be compared to the common rap lyrics?

Eddie

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