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#464254 - 01/06/19 11:55 AM Would you buy a damaged keyboard
Bachus Offline
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Over here in Holland
There is a Genos, 6 months old for sale
Its priced very good about 25% cheaper then a new one.

But it dropped on stage..
And there is a nasty dent about 1 cm in the side board next to the headset connector

Does this void warranty on the electronics?
Would you buy a keyboard in this state?

The price difference is huge..
But a drop like that can allways cause unsee damage that could be a potential killer..
I am seriously doubting what to do..
But its a lot of money, and i am sure i will not notice the dent while playing.
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#464255 - 01/06/19 02:33 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
Dnj Offline
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Buyer beware... There could be unknown internal damage...... And no warranty.....
And hard to ever sell later imo.... stop
Buy a new one or a Ketron Sd9...
Or just wait..... what's the rush? Genos 2 can't be far off.
See what's coming to market down the road.
New is not always better.


Edited by Dnj (01/06/19 03:53 PM)

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#464256 - 01/06/19 02:36 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
solomon8 Offline
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It's always a risk buying damaged equipment. I have purchased some with good results and great savings. I don't think, however, that I would want to spend a lot of money on a damaged keyboard. Do you have the ability to play it and look it over real good. I would think the Genos is a pretty sophisticated piece of equipment and who knows what a drop hard enough to dent it could do internally. Wishing you the best of luck on your difficult decision.


Edited by solomon8 (01/06/19 02:37 PM)

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#464257 - 01/06/19 02:58 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: solomon8]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By solomon8
It's always a risk buying damaged equipment. I have purchased some with good results and great savings. I don't think, however, that I would want to spend a lot of money on a damaged keyboard. Do you have the ability to play it and look it over real good. I would think the Genos is a pretty sophisticated piece of equipment and who knows what a drop hard enough to dent it could do internally. Wishing you the best of luck on your difficult decision.


Yes,

I will first go and play it, its a 2 hour drive from here..
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#464259 - 01/06/19 03:02 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus

...... Would you buy a keyboard in this state?


Yes,
if the damage is just cosmetic and not too irritating to look at, and the seller was willing to let me hold back the money until I've tested the keyboard for about 14 days.
If no fault by that time, it's most likely as it should be technically.
If the 'nasty dent' is very visible and may cause problems if sell later, I would ask for less to pay.. also because elecronic warranty don't cover fall to the floor.
(That kind of damage is covered by the house and inventory insuranse if it happens to me.)
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#464260 - 01/06/19 03:09 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Dnj]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Buyer beware... There could be unknown internal damage...... And no warranty.....
And hard to ever sell later imo.... stop
Buy a new one or a Ketron Sd9... Or just wait.....
what's the rush?
See what's coming to market down the road.


I dont expect any new totl arranger keys before summer, maybe a pa5x at musikmesse, but wont bevin shops before late autumn

I stepped away from the tought of ketron, there is just to many restrictions..even tough they have the best sounding onboard styles..

So why go for Genos?
- the interface is really intuitive
- there still is nothing like the sa2 and ensemble voices
- the number of user styles is incredible
- every time i played it, it seemed just perfect
And a whole long list.. v-console and all those other 3rd party tools standing high on it

I was hoping to import my backup stick with my old t5 stuff, but somehow the stick is unreadable in my pc. So i do need to start all over from scratch

And since i sold the pa4x this afternoon i am kind of in a hurry..
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#464261 - 01/06/19 03:15 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
Dnj Offline
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Good luck

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#464263 - 01/06/19 03:30 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus

... but somehow the stick is unreadable in my pc. So i do need to start all over from scratch...

And that's the best way to do it anyway if buy Genos.
Take the time to 'personalize' the stuff your way will most likely make you most satisfied & happy. wink
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#464266 - 01/06/19 04:10 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By Gunnar Jonny
Originally Posted By Bachus

... but somehow the stick is unreadable in my pc. So i do need to start all over from scratch...

And that's the best way to do it anyway if buy Genos.
Take the time to 'personalize' the stuff your way will most likely make you most satisfied & happy. wink


Yes, but it will be hard work to get all my yamaha style files back, they where also on there
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#464269 - 01/06/19 05:38 PM Re: Would you buy a damaged keyboard [Re: Bachus]
Kabinopus Offline
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Registered: 11/11/04
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Frankly I’m surprised that you are even considering this offer. Probably the idea of Genos messes with our minds. I think it’s suspicious that they want to sell it so soon in the first place. And 25% off is not that impressive even for a perfect but used keyboard; partly for the very reason that you never know for sure the history of used things.

I also think that it can be an interesting challenge to be with no arranger for a while. Sometimes when I want something very badly I start to question whether there’s a lack of something in my life or on the contrary too much of it… and the answer is usually ambiguous...

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