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#465550 - 02/01/19 12:53 AM
Re: Bachus first impressions on Genos ?..
[Re: Mikem]
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Bachus, since you own both the Genos and the MODX, I'm curious to know which one sounds better; for example, acoustic instruments, strings, orchestral brass, woodwinds and choirs. Thanks very much in advance.  I think they are basically on the same level and sound identical where it comes to general sound quallity Where modx scores is the better piano sounds and the fact that there is a Bosendorfer piano available.. Also the Modx has much more power at the synth side of things, not only the FM part, but also its AWM part has things to offer, like 18 different filter types versus 6 on the Genos..many of the onboard tools in the Modx, like certain arp types and the motion sequencer, envelope follower, superknob structure definately make a difference for the depth of many synth sounds.. also where it comes to powerfull background layered strings, the broad layering capacity of the Modx makes the difference.. being able to layer more then 3 voices is a huge advantage, and not just for strings... Where it comes to acoustic sounds, its the other way around, the Genos is the one having all the tools like sa2 and ensembles to make the better sounds... also many of the sounds in Genos make more sense for the average repertoire of the arranger player. The montage/modx does not have wersi organs and such.. In the end, both sound out of this world.. and instead of feeling redundant, they start to make perfect partners in my boook, they really add to eachother.. even tough much of the soundsources is the same samples.. And a combination of both in a single instrument would be the perfect instrument for me... there is really not much left to wish for when you have both.. My biggest problem with the modx is it not having any sheetmusic stand My biggest pun with the Genos is Yem, which should have been inside the Genos, and not an external solution. Obviously both are not sound related.. Because their sound is a pleasure to my ears..
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#465572 - 02/01/19 10:51 AM
Re: Bachus first impressions on Genos ?..
[Re: Bachus]
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[quote=mc2pereira]Bachus
Conclusion... we need more more more revo drums.. Most likely you will see more on genos 2,.....that has always been Yamaha strategy marketing to trickle in features on each model, little by little just enough to make people buy, buy, buy, & still yearn for more on the next release over and over, SA voices was a perfect example of this in the past.... I guess marketing is what keeps selling these instruments, i guess its a necessary evil, or they might totally disappear.. I agree more and more as technology improves it also makes people realize they don't need to buy the latest and greatest model each and every time and will pass a few offerings and keep what they have for 5-10 years before they change again as the minuscule improvements are not worth it. I would say Roland figured that out years ago also as the G70, Bk9, can attest and still sound terrific today... and as we all know any arranger today sounds great and does the job in different ways using their own features. Whatever your comfortable with playing it will serve you well. And then you always have the competition of using a computer based programs,vst, etc, to create music in many ways also...the game is changing. Is it good or bad that is a personal question on has to answer for themselves. mean while enjoy what you play, when the fun stops or it gets boring try something else there are many choices. 
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#465579 - 02/01/19 02:18 PM
Re: Bachus first impressions on Genos ?..
[Re: Bachus]
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Loc: Quebec, Canada
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Bachus, since you own both the Genos and the MODX, I'm curious to know which one sounds better; for example, acoustic instruments, strings, orchestral brass, woodwinds and choirs. Thanks very much in advance. I think they are basically on the same level and sound identical where it comes to general sound quallity Where modx scores is the better piano sounds and the fact that there is a Bosendorfer piano available.. Also the Modx has much more power at the synth side of things, not only the FM part, but also its AWM part has things to offer, like 18 different filter types versus 6 on the Genos..many of the onboard tools in the Modx, like certain arp types and the motion sequencer, envelope follower, superknob structure definately make a difference for the depth of many synth sounds.. also where it comes to powerfull background layered strings, the broad layering capacity of the Modx makes the difference.. being able to layer more then 3 voices is a huge advantage, and not just for strings... Where it comes to acoustic sounds, its the other way around, the Genos is the one having all the tools like sa2 and ensembles to make the better sounds... also many of the sounds in Genos make more sense for the average repertoire of the arranger player. The montage/modx does not have wersi organs and such.. In the end, both sound out of this world.. and instead of feeling redundant, they start to make perfect partners in my boook, they really add to eachother.. even tough much of the soundsources is the same samples.. And a combination of both in a single instrument would be the perfect instrument for me... there is really not much left to wish for when you have both.. My biggest problem with the modx is it not having any sheetmusic stand My biggest pun with the Genos is Yem, which should have been inside the Genos, and not an external solution. Obviously both are not sound related.. Because their sound is a pleasure to my ears.. Wow, Bachus! That's an amazing analysis! Thanks so much for your impressions of both! Having both in one, as you say, would be ideal for me, too! I can certainly understand your joy, since you have both. Enjoy your enviable position!
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#465582 - 02/01/19 03:57 PM
Re: Bachus first impressions on Genos ?..
[Re: Mikem]
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Bachus, since you own both the Genos and the MODX, I'm curious to know which one sounds better; for example, acoustic instruments, strings, orchestral brass, woodwinds and choirs. Thanks very much in advance. I think they are basically on the same level and sound identical where it comes to general sound quallity Where modx scores is the better piano sounds and the fact that there is a Bosendorfer piano available.. Also the Modx has much more power at the synth side of things, not only the FM part, but also its AWM part has things to offer, like 18 different filter types versus 6 on the Genos..many of the onboard tools in the Modx, like certain arp types and the motion sequencer, envelope follower, superknob structure definately make a difference for the depth of many synth sounds.. also where it comes to powerfull background layered strings, the broad layering capacity of the Modx makes the difference.. being able to layer more then 3 voices is a huge advantage, and not just for strings... Where it comes to acoustic sounds, its the other way around, the Genos is the one having all the tools like sa2 and ensembles to make the better sounds... also many of the sounds in Genos make more sense for the average repertoire of the arranger player. The montage/modx does not have wersi organs and such.. In the end, both sound out of this world.. and instead of feeling redundant, they start to make perfect partners in my boook, they really add to eachother.. even tough much of the soundsources is the same samples.. And a combination of both in a single instrument would be the perfect instrument for me... there is really not much left to wish for when you have both.. My biggest problem with the modx is it not having any sheetmusic stand My biggest pun with the Genos is Yem, which should have been inside the Genos, and not an external solution. Obviously both are not sound related.. Because their sound is a pleasure to my ears.. Wow, Bachus! That's an amazing analysis! Thanks so much for your impressions of both! Having both in one, as you say, would be ideal for me, too! I can certainly understand your joy, since you have both. Enjoy your enviable position! Actually writing this made me realise what to do.. Why look much further for an 88 key when you have the incredible sounds of the modx at hand? I made a nice deal, and will trade the modx 6 later this week for a modx8..
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