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#46462 - 03/02/05 09:43 PM
Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Originally posted by Audrey Turner: Why do we need Midispot files anyway...... Well, I happen to like them for my style of playing, as many others happen to like Neil Blake, Carillon or even Technics. It's not only about MidiSpot, it's about all commercial software, even Technics stuff bought at Technote. And yes, we pay for it when buy, but do that mean that you can make it free downloadable at your website if you happen to have one, or copy and send it to all other of the keyboardusers you know about via e-mail as soon as you bought any? (Those who remember will know that this was the reason that Technote closed down the Technics forum some years ago) Regarding to what files are better than others, guess it's more about taste of musicstyle. There is a lot of the Technics styles, both sold separately and onboard the kb who I don't like at all, but do that mean that it is bad quality? Sorry if I offended anyone by post the link, thougt it would be for some interest rather than make anybody feel the danger of not collect 1st class commersial files for free. Happy playing, with or without styles. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) GJ
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#46465 - 03/03/05 03:33 AM
Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Originally posted by RMepstead: However the copyright requirements are obviously complicated ....... ..hide many of their song specific rhythms behind innocuous titles.. ....fair game for sharing... Yeah, it's really complicated Roger, at least for me who don't have lawschool education. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/wink.gif) But maybe this also have something to do about average common sense? Most all keyboards have a lot of styles or presets where the titles hint at different songs or artists. So do also several houndreds, if not tousands of styles made by 3rd party suppliers. I think it's great, and if the style / pattern are made as well as I easily by i.e. mute a instrument in the accomp can use it for more and different songs, it's even better. The option with more than one intro & end etc. do this more flexible. But, I can't see why that should make it more legal to spread the style around as "freeware" by the buyers/users as long as it is made and sold as (copyrighted) commercial addons, or what? I think what it is about, is why bother to create any "food" for us and our keyboards if only one of us buy, and that customer offer it for free to the rest of the world? It's sure nice to get it at first, but at the end there will be no more developement and new stuff to other than from the "one and only" (if any) who also will know to elevate the charge........ Happy playing ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) GJ
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#46468 - 03/03/05 05:54 AM
Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Fran, I don't think it's the big deal if you happen to share a piece of music that "accidentally" contain such a style, even if it's legal by law or not. But, if it's done by i.e. use of a e-mail list to reach between two and maybe hundreds of "members", would you still call it to share it with a friend? Roger, by use of i.e. mp3 you'll also be able to share your music to other than the users who have the same instrument model as yourself, as long as noone claim the copyrights of the tune...... Oh well, guess what, whatever way we turn the body, the butt will be behind the front. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif) GJ
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#46472 - 03/04/05 05:06 AM
Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Hi All,
Johnny.c, any time there is a discussion about copyrights (especially concerning music)it will go around in circles because the music industry wants us to believe any and all forms of sharing music without paying for it is wrong.
Fran, according to the music people not only would using a copyrighted style in a song and sharing it be wrong, just sharing the song is wrong unless you wrote it.
There are so many licenses involved it's like your auto. You need a title to have it, a license to drive it, a license to put it on the road and in some places a license to say it does not pollute the air.
Music is the same, there are copyrights, performance rights, recording rights, distrubution rights and who knows want else.
Here is a funny one, If I write a song and I do not distribute any copies of the song to any person "All Copyrights Rights" remain exclusively mine, I could perform the song every day to an audience and yet that is not considered distribution. Which means that if you start to sing the song on the way out of the hall after hearing it I could sue you for performing an undistrubuted song.
Because I have a couple of registered copyrighted songs I wanted to know what my rights were. Even after belonging to the US copyright offce subscription service for 4 years I could never completely understand it and they were sending me stuff that was suppose to make it simple.
What I did learn was that if "I" write something (anything a song, a poem, an article) and I attach the copyright symbol or the word "Copyright" to it with my name and the year. It is considered to be copyrighted. If I give copies to someone I loose a few rights and registering it only makes it easier to prove in court but is not a requirement for copyright protection. All the other stuff is settled in court.
If all the laws were clear the recording industry would not be sueing so many people only to have the courts say they cann't.
And while some pleople do not like these types of discussions on this forum I find them a bit refreshing so thanks Gunnar for the thread.
------------------ Heather- Leesburg, FL PR54
[This message has been edited by shcox (edited 03-04-2005).]
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#46473 - 03/04/05 06:16 AM
Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Originally posted by shcox: .....And while some pleople do not like these types of discussions on this forum I find them a bit refreshing so thanks Gunnar for the thread. You're most welcome Heather, and yes, it's interesting stuff, even if it's a bit boring as well. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) The main reason why I posted the link to the tread at GenArr was that I thought it was great to see people from companies such as GEM and MidiSpot also participated in the discussion. Also I think it's good to see that it's more like: "Com'on, we'll help you solve the problems" rather than tell you that a lawyer are on the way to sue you. Additionally it's maybe a reminder for me as well as others to be a bit careful and not step out in too deep water when we create websites and share our musicstuff. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/wink.gif) Happy Playing. GJ
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